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Attributes | |
ACN | 84836 |
Time | |
Date | 198804 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : mzb |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 2500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : san |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 88 flight time total : 503 flight time type : 50 |
ASRS Report | 84836 |
Person 2 | |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was on a photo flight beneath the TCA at 1500'. I needed to go through the VFR corridor and get a TCA clearance on the south side of the corridor. I contacted approach and asked him if I could get a clearance. He said to climb to 3500' and use the VFR corridor and contact lindbergh tower. I began to climb and get to 2500', where I think I may have been in the TCA. I may have been under the TCA where the floor is 1800', and thus when climbing to 2500' on the way to 3500', violated their airspace. What could be done to avoid this in the future: I know controllers are busy, but so is the pilot, especially when on a photo flight in and around a TCA. Perhaps the controller could be careful not to give directions that could lead you into the TCA. In fact, perhaps he could give you a warning if you were about to enter the TCA. It would be a lot easier for him, considering the fact that he has you on radar and has the TCA clearly indicated on his radar screen.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PENETRATED THE TCA WITHOUT CLRNC.
Narrative: I WAS ON A PHOTO FLT BENEATH THE TCA AT 1500'. I NEEDED TO GO THROUGH THE VFR CORRIDOR AND GET A TCA CLRNC ON THE S SIDE OF THE CORRIDOR. I CONTACTED APCH AND ASKED HIM IF I COULD GET A CLRNC. HE SAID TO CLB TO 3500' AND USE THE VFR CORRIDOR AND CONTACT LINDBERGH TWR. I BEGAN TO CLB AND GET TO 2500', WHERE I THINK I MAY HAVE BEEN IN THE TCA. I MAY HAVE BEEN UNDER THE TCA WHERE THE FLOOR IS 1800', AND THUS WHEN CLBING TO 2500' ON THE WAY TO 3500', VIOLATED THEIR AIRSPACE. WHAT COULD BE DONE TO AVOID THIS IN THE FUTURE: I KNOW CTLRS ARE BUSY, BUT SO IS THE PLT, ESPECIALLY WHEN ON A PHOTO FLT IN AND AROUND A TCA. PERHAPS THE CTLR COULD BE CAREFUL NOT TO GIVE DIRECTIONS THAT COULD LEAD YOU INTO THE TCA. IN FACT, PERHAPS HE COULD GIVE YOU A WARNING IF YOU WERE ABOUT TO ENTER THE TCA. IT WOULD BE A LOT EASIER FOR HIM, CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT HE HAS YOU ON RADAR AND HAS THE TCA CLEARLY INDICATED ON HIS RADAR SCREEN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.