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Attributes | |
ACN | 84891 |
Time | |
Date | 198803 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sea |
State Reference | WA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 10000 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sea |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Route In Use | arrival star : star |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 1400 |
ASRS Report | 84891 |
Person 2 | |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Yvr-sea route segment, made crossing altitude of 10000' per jawbn 3 arrival, but failed to note 250 KT restriction was 'hard,' not 'expect' as is usually the case on stars, until within a few miles of lofal. Xed lofal at approximately 280 KTS IAS. 2 comments: we were in 'slow below 10000' mindset since most stars only have 'expect' speed limits. ATC usually calls the airspeed as required. Secondly, since a 'hard' speed on a STAR isn't routine, more attention could be called to it on STAR plate by underlining, symbology.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR LGT NON ADHERENCE TO PUBLISHED STAR. SPEED DEVIATION.
Narrative: YVR-SEA ROUTE SEGMENT, MADE XING ALT OF 10000' PER JAWBN 3 ARR, BUT FAILED TO NOTE 250 KT RESTRICTION WAS 'HARD,' NOT 'EXPECT' AS IS USUALLY THE CASE ON STARS, UNTIL WITHIN A FEW MILES OF LOFAL. XED LOFAL AT APPROX 280 KTS IAS. 2 COMMENTS: WE WERE IN 'SLOW BELOW 10000' MINDSET SINCE MOST STARS ONLY HAVE 'EXPECT' SPD LIMITS. ATC USUALLY CALLS THE AIRSPD AS REQUIRED. SECONDLY, SINCE A 'HARD' SPD ON A STAR ISN'T ROUTINE, MORE ATTN COULD BE CALLED TO IT ON STAR PLATE BY UNDERLINING, SYMBOLOGY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.