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Attributes | |
ACN | 854896 |
Time | |
Date | 200910 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
State Reference | US |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
Operating Under FAR Part | Other 61 |
Flight Phase | Final Approach |
Route In Use | None |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Not Flying Instructor |
Qualification | Flight Crew Commercial Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Flight Instructor |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 150 Flight Crew Total 1300 Flight Crew Type 600 |
Person 2 | |
Function | Trainee Pilot Flying |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 16 Flight Crew Total 16 Flight Crew Type 16 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Conflict NMAC |
Miss Distance | Horizontal 0 Vertical 200 |
Narrative:
The student and I were on a training mission preparing the student for a pre-solo phase check within his determined program. We had requested a closed traffic pattern and were given the north runway. We had been in the traffic pattern for a little over a half hour when the pattern became full with more aircraft; about 5 training aircraft in total. For the previous 2-3 patterns we had been following a similar aircraft to ours and had been assigned to follow that traffic on the previous patterns to landing. On the pattern of incident; we had not been assigned traffic to follow so we proceeded to make a standard pattern which was left traffic at the time. We waited till our base turn at the 45 degree point and made our turn; pulling power and beginning a descent. While looking at the runway and checking final approach; we turned final and aligned with the center line of the runway. We had turned on final slightly above the PAPI indicators; so we continued to descend in an attempt to attain and maintain the glide slope on approach. As we approached our mandatory 500 foot call-out point we received a radio call from tower to make a go-around due to being 'nearly on top of someone else.' we were unsure what was meant by the call; because as we added throttle and pitched up for a climb we still could not see anyone near or around us. No radio calls had been made to us regarding traffic and we were not given a sequence to land. Traffic was below our aircraft; which is a low wing; and was not in sight at anytime during the pattern. The other aircraft ended up being another airplane from our school; which is where we learned what aircraft we were close to and where he was when we were told to go-around.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A flight instructor with a student experienced an NMAC with another aircraft in the pattern.
Narrative: The student and I were on a training mission preparing the student for a Pre-solo phase check within his determined program. We had requested a closed traffic pattern and were given the north Runway. We had been in the traffic pattern for a little over a half hour when the pattern became full with more aircraft; about 5 training aircraft in total. For the previous 2-3 patterns we had been following a similar aircraft to ours and had been assigned to follow that traffic on the previous patterns to landing. On the pattern of incident; we had not been assigned traffic to follow so we proceeded to make a standard pattern which was left traffic at the time. We waited till our base turn at the 45 degree point and made our turn; pulling power and beginning a descent. While looking at the runway and checking final approach; we turned final and aligned with the center line of the runway. We had turned on final slightly above the PAPI indicators; so we continued to descend in an attempt to attain and maintain the glide slope on approach. As we approached our mandatory 500 foot call-out point we received a radio call from tower to make a go-around due to being 'nearly on top of someone else.' We were unsure what was meant by the call; because as we added throttle and pitched up for a climb we still could not see anyone near or around us. No radio calls had been made to us regarding traffic and we were not given a sequence to land. Traffic was below our aircraft; which is a low wing; and was not in sight at anytime during the pattern. The other aircraft ended up being another airplane from our school; which is where we learned what aircraft we were close to and where he was when we were told to go-around.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.