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An air carrier flight crew was confused by the pit 28C signage '28C-approach' on taxiway east at the hold short marking because ATC did not issue a verbal 'hold short' instruction as anticipated because of a published airport note.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 858435 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200911 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0001-0600 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | PIT.Airport |
| State Reference | PA |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | B737-700 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Captain |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 201 Flight Crew Type 201 |
| Person 2 | |
| Function | First Officer |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 230 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Ground Incursion Runway |
Narrative:
After pushback; we were cleared to taxi to runway 28C via taxiways V and east. Approximately 2000 feet from the departure end of runway 28C; we switched to pit tower frequency. On taxiway east still parallel to 28C and about 200 feet from the departure end of the runway; we encountered conflicting runway signage and taxiway markings. The sign indicated 28C-approach while the markings indicated hold short. I realize this is a commerical chart page 10-7 note but the note also says that pit tower will issue hold short at the 28C-approach line; a clearance we did not receive. There is an extremely high probability of a runway incursion under the present circumstances as flight crews do not typically hold short at the 28C-approach point without specific instruction to do so by the controlling facility. We would normally hold at the rwy 28C/10C sign. Either the verbal instruction to hold short should consistently be given or; better yet; the conflicting sign and markings should be resolved.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: An Air Carrier flight crew was confused by the PIT 28C signage '28C-APCH' on Taxiway E at the HOLD SHORT marking because ATC did not issue a verbal 'Hold Short' instruction as anticipated because of a published Airport Note.
Narrative: After pushback; we were cleared to taxi to Runway 28C via taxiways V and E. Approximately 2000 feet from the departure end of Runway 28C; we switched to PIT Tower frequency. On Taxiway E still parallel to 28C and about 200 feet from the departure end of the runway; we encountered conflicting runway signage and taxiway markings. The sign indicated 28C-APCH while the markings indicated hold short. I realize this is a commerical chart page 10-7 note but the note also says that PIT Tower will issue hold short at the 28C-APCH line; a clearance we did NOT receive. There is an extremely high probability of a runway incursion under the present circumstances as flight crews do not typically hold short at the 28C-APCH point without specific instruction to do so by the controlling facility. We would normally hold at the Rwy 28C/10C sign. Either the verbal instruction to hold short should consistently be given or; better yet; the conflicting sign and markings should be resolved.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.