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Attributes | |
ACN | 85912 |
Time | |
Date | 198804 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : orf airport : lfi |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3700 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : orf |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, High Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Fighter |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 7500 flight time type : 2800 |
ASRS Report | 85912 |
Person 2 | |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 300 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Flight was cleared IFR to 8000' on a radar vector of 310 degrees. While climbing through 3700', 2 fgt aircraft passed from left to right. The climb was stopped so as to avert a collision. The fgt's were at 4000' (best guess). ATC was queried and noticed the traffic as it passed to our right. The fgt's were VFR and not talking to any ATC facility governing the airspace they were transiting. I understand a private pilot or GA VFR, but I am surprised our armed forces operating high performance aircraft would condone this type of operation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC BETWEEN ACR-LTT AND 2 FGT'S.
Narrative: FLT WAS CLRED IFR TO 8000' ON A RADAR VECTOR OF 310 DEGS. WHILE CLBING THROUGH 3700', 2 FGT ACFT PASSED FROM LEFT TO RIGHT. THE CLB WAS STOPPED SO AS TO AVERT A COLLISION. THE FGT'S WERE AT 4000' (BEST GUESS). ATC WAS QUERIED AND NOTICED THE TFC AS IT PASSED TO OUR RIGHT. THE FGT'S WERE VFR AND NOT TALKING TO ANY ATC FAC GOVERNING THE AIRSPACE THEY WERE TRANSITING. I UNDERSTAND A PVT PLT OR GA VFR, BUT I AM SURPRISED OUR ARMED FORCES OPERATING HIGH PERFORMANCE ACFT WOULD CONDONE THIS TYPE OF OPERATION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.