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Attributes | |
ACN | 86414 |
Time | |
Date | 198805 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dfw |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dfw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 170 flight time total : 4800 |
ASRS Report | 86414 |
Person 2 | |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Deviation |
Narrative:
Our large transport was on a 270 degree vector at 5000'. Copilot flying. It appeared that we were going to be vectored onto downwind for runway 35R. As we went through the downwind leg (still heading 270 degree) the captain asked the controller if she wanted us to follow a medium large transport that looked like it might be in sequence ahead of us for the same runway. The controller said, 'negative, maintain heading and altitude.' about 15 seconds later, just as we were flying through the final approach course, the controller (with a very unprofessional tone of voice) said 'turn left 140 degrees. I told you to follow the medium large transport.' this incident is particularly frustrating because we asked the controller about the situation as it was occurring. Also because, had it been our fault, we would have been violated. But, because it was a controller error, it is merely shrugged off with an 'oh well.' it is our lives as well as our licenses at stake. Her attitude of infallibility is conspicuously unprofessional.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CTLR FAILED TO VECTOR REPORTER PROPERLY.
Narrative: OUR LGT WAS ON A 270 DEG VECTOR AT 5000'. COPLT FLYING. IT APPEARED THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE VECTORED ONTO DOWNWIND FOR RWY 35R. AS WE WENT THROUGH THE DOWNWIND LEG (STILL HDG 270 DEG) THE CAPT ASKED THE CTLR IF SHE WANTED US TO FOLLOW A MLG THAT LOOKED LIKE IT MIGHT BE IN SEQUENCE AHEAD OF US FOR THE SAME RWY. THE CTLR SAID, 'NEGATIVE, MAINTAIN HDG AND ALT.' ABOUT 15 SECS LATER, JUST AS WE WERE FLYING THROUGH THE FINAL APCH COURSE, THE CTLR (WITH A VERY UNPROFESSIONAL TONE OF VOICE) SAID 'TURN LEFT 140 DEGS. I TOLD YOU TO FOLLOW THE MLG.' THIS INCIDENT IS PARTICULARLY FRUSTRATING BECAUSE WE ASKED THE CTLR ABOUT THE SITUATION AS IT WAS OCCURRING. ALSO BECAUSE, HAD IT BEEN OUR FAULT, WE WOULD HAVE BEEN VIOLATED. BUT, BECAUSE IT WAS A CTLR ERROR, IT IS MERELY SHRUGGED OFF WITH AN 'OH WELL.' IT IS OUR LIVES AS WELL AS OUR LICENSES AT STAKE. HER ATTITUDE OF INFALLIBILITY IS CONSPICUOUSLY UNPROFESSIONAL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.