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Attributes | |
ACN | 86669 |
Time | |
Date | 198805 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : atr |
State Reference | DE |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 15000 msl bound upper : 16000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute airway : v308 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Experimental |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 11000 |
ASRS Report | 86669 |
Person 2 | |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 300 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
We were wbound on V308, 15 DME west of ATR descending, approximately 16000-15500'. Copilot flying yelled out and pointed to a spc in right turn bearing down on us. Spc passed overhead. All 3 pilots heard the engines as it passed overhead approximately 300' above us. Asked ATC about spc and they said to the effect a VFR target just popped up on the screen. We recall that controller insinuated that the spc had no transponder. I think anyone above 10000' west/O a transponder is an idiot asking for trouble. I would like to relay that message to the navy personally. ATC near miss reported.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LGT AND SPC HAVE NMAC.
Narrative: WE WERE WBOUND ON V308, 15 DME W OF ATR DSNDING, APPROX 16000-15500'. COPLT FLYING YELLED OUT AND POINTED TO A SPC IN RIGHT TURN BEARING DOWN ON US. SPC PASSED OVERHEAD. ALL 3 PLTS HEARD THE ENGS AS IT PASSED OVERHEAD APPROX 300' ABOVE US. ASKED ATC ABOUT SPC AND THEY SAID TO THE EFFECT A VFR TARGET JUST POPPED UP ON THE SCREEN. WE RECALL THAT CTLR INSINUATED THAT THE SPC HAD NO TRANSPONDER. I THINK ANYONE ABOVE 10000' W/O A TRANSPONDER IS AN IDIOT ASKING FOR TROUBLE. I WOULD LIKE TO RELAY THAT MESSAGE TO THE NAVY PERSONALLY. ATC NEAR MISS RPTED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.