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Attributes | |
ACN | 876070 |
Time | |
Date | 201002 |
Local Time Of Day | 0001-0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZAN.ARTCC |
State Reference | AK |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
Person 1 | |
Function | First Officer Pilot Not Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Track / Heading All Types |
Narrative:
Cleared by anc ATC for RNAV 11 approach into ktn. While on downwind; a fog bank began rolling over the airport as reported by ktn radio. During the base turn we could see the approach end of the runway; but just barely. During the turn to final; we decided to change to the ILS and expressed our desire to ktn radio. They cleared us for it; and we engaged the approach mode of the autopilot. We had briefed it during the decent as well just in case. I put it into the FMC and we continued to the DH. We could see the approach lights but not the runway; so we executed a missed. Realizing we were on a different misssed approach in direction of hold; we made sure we told anc ATC when we contacted them that we were on the missed approach from the ILS; not the RNAV. Just before entering the hold; anc ATC informed us of an altitude limit that they had that prevented them from giving us a late clearance for the ILS; but we thought ktn radios approval of the approach was good enough. The anc controller said it was pretty much for information only; but providing this report may help other crews in the future. Cause; misunderstanding of who can clear us for approaches. We thought ktn radio could change us from the RNAV to the ILS. Suggestions; fly the approach you are last cleared for; do the missed approach if required; then try another approach.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Air carrier on approach to KTN and on KTN radio's frequency elects to change from RNAV to ILS approach ending in a missed approach procedure prompting questions regarding clearance procedure change authority.
Narrative: Cleared by ANC ATC for RNAV 11 approach into KTN. While on downwind; a fog bank began rolling over the airport as reported by KTN radio. During the base turn we could see the approach end of the runway; but just barely. During the turn to final; we decided to change to the ILS and expressed our desire to KTN radio. They cleared us for it; and we engaged the approach mode of the autopilot. We had briefed it during the decent as well just in case. I put it into the FMC and we continued to the DH. We could see the approach lights but not the runway; so we executed a missed. Realizing we were on a different misssed approach in direction of hold; we made sure we told ANC ATC when we contacted them that we were on the missed approach from the ILS; not the RNAV. Just before entering the hold; ANC ATC informed us of an altitude limit that they had that prevented them from giving us a late clearance for the ILS; but we thought KTN radios approval of the approach was good enough. The ANC controller said it was pretty much for information only; but providing this report may help other crews in the future. Cause; misunderstanding of who can clear us for approaches. We thought KTN radio could change us from the RNAV to the ILS. Suggestions; fly the approach you are last cleared for; do the missed approach if required; then try another approach.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.