An air carrier flight crew flying a heavy aircraft on the san poggi two RNAV STAR could not make a 1...

Attributes
ACN	883487
Time
Date	201004
Local Time Of Day	1201-1800
Place
Locale Reference	SAN.Airport
State Reference	CA
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport Low Wing 2 Turbojet Eng
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	Climb
Route In Use	SID POGGI2
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Make Model Name	Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer
Component
Aircraft Component	GPWS
Person 1
Function	First Officer Pilot Flying
Person 2
Function	Captain Pilot Not Flying
Events
Anomaly	ATC Issue All Types Aircraft Equipment Problem Less Severe Conflict Airborne Conflict Deviation - Altitude Crossing Restriction Not Met Deviation - Altitude Excursion From Assigned Altitude

Narrative:

Climbing out from san we were told by ATC to cross pgy at 14;000 ft. We told ATC we were unable due to aircraft performance. We were then told to head 090 after pgy. After passing about 13;500 ft we were told to rejoin the SID. The turn headed us back towards a daily; local parachute jumping plane supposedly at 13;500 ft somewhere near pgy. This caused us to have TCAS RA at about 13;700 ft with a descent command. We complied telling ATC we were doing so. ATC then told us we were descending towards the other aircraft. Not seeing the aircraft in question made this very distressing. ATC then said we were clear as they had moved behind us. The other aircraft said they had us in sight but this was no comfort. They could be looking at the wrong aircraft. They could also have the wrong barometer setting and or could be climbing. We are trained that without knowing with certainty we have the other aircraft in sight we must comply with an RA even if ATC tells us we are causing a greater danger. The captain wrote up the TCAS system but frankly I think something is broken in this recurring event that our mechanics could not fix. Move the parachute jumping away from pgy at 13;500 ft. This is an accident waiting to happen.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: An Air Carrier Flight Crew flying a heavy aircraft on the SAN POGGI TWO RNAV STAR could not make a 14;000' POGGI crossing restriction and had a TCAS RA with a parachute drop aircraft at 13;500 prior to POGGI.

Narrative: Climbing out from SAN we were told by ATC to cross PGY at 14;000 FT. We told ATC we were unable due to aircraft performance. We were then told to head 090 after PGY. After passing about 13;500 FT we were told to rejoin the SID. The turn headed us back towards a daily; local parachute jumping plane supposedly at 13;500 FT somewhere near PGY. This caused us to have TCAS RA at about 13;700 FT with a descent command. We complied telling ATC we were doing so. ATC then told us we were descending towards the other aircraft. Not seeing the aircraft in question made this very distressing. ATC then said we were clear as they had moved behind us. The other aircraft said they had us in sight but this was no comfort. They could be looking at the wrong aircraft. They could also have the wrong barometer setting and or could be climbing. We are trained that without knowing with certainty we have the other aircraft in sight we must comply with an RA even if ATC tells us we are causing a greater danger. The Captain wrote up the TCAS system but frankly I think something is broken in this recurring event that our mechanics could not fix. Move the parachute jumping away from PGY at 13;500 FT. This is an accident waiting to happen.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

An air carrier flight crew flying a heavy aircraft on the san poggi two RNAV STAR could not make a 14;000' poggi crossing restriction and had a TCAS RA with a parachute drop aircraft at 13;500 prior to poggi.