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Attributes | |
ACN | 88480 |
Time | |
Date | 198806 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : dca |
State Reference | DC |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 0 msl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | ground : holding |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 190 flight time total : 10300 flight time type : 950 |
ASRS Report | 88480 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 6150 flight time type : 210 |
ASRS Report | 88309 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground critical |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On taxi out at dca we were told to follow air carrier to runway 18. We were instructed to keep it tight to air carrier. Air carrier went into run up block positioned #1 for takeoff. We were told to follow and 'keep it tight to air carrier in the run up block.' air carrier was to our left and slightly ahead of us. We spent 10 mins in the run up block behind air carrier. We were then told to taxi into position and hold on runway 18. As we turned right to pass air carrier, moving very slowly, our left wingtip contacted the air carrier large transport right wingtip we stopped. There were no fluid leaks evident. We called ramp control and told them we had made contact and requested mechanics. When mechanics arrived and inspected aircraft, they had air carrier pull forward to disengage wingtips. Air carrier then taxied back to gate. We taxied back to gate behind air carrier and parked. Trip cancelled. There were no injuries to people. There was no evacuate/evacuation. Dca airport very congested on ground and in air. We were led to believe that air carrier would be #1 to depart. Radio frequency too congested to verify takeoff sequence. Told to keep it tight in the runup block and did so assuming air carrier would be #1 for takeoff. Closer position to air carrier aircraft than if we had known we would takeoff first. Surprised by call into position and hold for use ahead of air carrier. Very hard to see our wingtip on stretched and large transport. Thought we had wingtip clearance, we did not and made contact. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: callback indicates FAA has sent letter re investigation. Company has taken no action beyond crew review.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TAXI FOR TKOF MOVING FROM BEHIND ANOTHER ACFT, WINGTIP STRIKE.
Narrative: ON TAXI OUT AT DCA WE WERE TOLD TO FOLLOW ACR TO RWY 18. WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO KEEP IT TIGHT TO ACR. ACR WENT INTO RUN UP BLOCK POSITIONED #1 FOR TKOF. WE WERE TOLD TO FOLLOW AND 'KEEP IT TIGHT TO ACR IN THE RUN UP BLOCK.' ACR WAS TO OUR LEFT AND SLIGHTLY AHEAD OF US. WE SPENT 10 MINS IN THE RUN UP BLOCK BEHIND ACR. WE WERE THEN TOLD TO TAXI INTO POS AND HOLD ON RWY 18. AS WE TURNED RIGHT TO PASS ACR, MOVING VERY SLOWLY, OUR LEFT WINGTIP CONTACTED THE ACR LGT RIGHT WINGTIP WE STOPPED. THERE WERE NO FLUID LEAKS EVIDENT. WE CALLED RAMP CTL AND TOLD THEM WE HAD MADE CONTACT AND REQUESTED MECHS. WHEN MECHS ARRIVED AND INSPECTED ACFT, THEY HAD ACR PULL FORWARD TO DISENGAGE WINGTIPS. ACR THEN TAXIED BACK TO GATE. WE TAXIED BACK TO GATE BEHIND ACR AND PARKED. TRIP CANCELLED. THERE WERE NO INJURIES TO PEOPLE. THERE WAS NO EVAC. DCA ARPT VERY CONGESTED ON GND AND IN AIR. WE WERE LED TO BELIEVE THAT ACR WOULD BE #1 TO DEPART. RADIO FREQ TOO CONGESTED TO VERIFY TKOF SEQUENCE. TOLD TO KEEP IT TIGHT IN THE RUNUP BLOCK AND DID SO ASSUMING ACR WOULD BE #1 FOR TKOF. CLOSER POS TO ACR ACFT THAN IF WE HAD KNOWN WE WOULD TKOF FIRST. SURPRISED BY CALL INTO POS AND HOLD FOR USE AHEAD OF ACR. VERY HARD TO SEE OUR WINGTIP ON STRETCHED AND LGT. THOUGHT WE HAD WINGTIP CLRNC, WE DID NOT AND MADE CONTACT. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: CALLBACK INDICATES FAA HAS SENT LETTER RE INVESTIGATION. COMPANY HAS TAKEN NO ACTION BEYOND CREW REVIEW.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.