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Attributes | |
ACN | 88484 |
Time | |
Date | 198806 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ict |
State Reference | KS |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 10000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zkc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 30500 flight time type : 1400 |
ASRS Report | 88484 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 88614 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 50 vertical : 150 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Executed a descent to cross the 35 DME southeast of ilt VOR at 10000'. Kansas city ARTCC advised us of unknown VFR traffic at 10-11 O'clock reporting altitude of 10200'. Then the controllers advised us the traffic was reporting 11000'. I called 'rogon traffic in sight.' we were then cleared to contact wichita approach control which I did. As I looked down to shift radio frequencys saw the first officer start a descending turn to the right. I looked back up and saw the traffic that was at 11000' had put his gear down and started a nose over maneuver. It was a twin propeller t-tail with tip tanks. I reported this to wichita approach control as by this time we had descended to 9500' without clearance. I suspect that it was a test flight. Thank god for altitude encoders and thanks to kansas city center for telling us. I suggest a special area for test flight in the wichita area for the manufacturers there as well as the air force.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MLG SMT HAVE NMAC.
Narrative: EXECUTED A DESCENT TO CROSS THE 35 DME SE OF ILT VOR AT 10000'. KANSAS CITY ARTCC ADVISED US OF UNKNOWN VFR TFC AT 10-11 O'CLOCK REPORTING ALT OF 10200'. THEN THE CTLRS ADVISED US THE TFC WAS REPORTING 11000'. I CALLED 'ROGON TFC IN SIGHT.' WE WERE THEN CLRED TO CONTACT WICHITA APCH CTL WHICH I DID. AS I LOOKED DOWN TO SHIFT RADIO FREQS SAW THE F/O START A DESCENDING TURN TO THE RIGHT. I LOOKED BACK UP AND SAW THE TFC THAT WAS AT 11000' HAD PUT HIS GEAR DOWN AND STARTED A NOSE OVER MANEUVER. IT WAS A TWIN PROP T-TAIL WITH TIP TANKS. I REPORTED THIS TO WICHITA APCH CTL AS BY THIS TIME WE HAD DESCENDED TO 9500' WITHOUT CLRNC. I SUSPECT THAT IT WAS A TEST FLT. THANK GOD FOR ALT ENCODERS AND THANKS TO KANSAS CITY CENTER FOR TELLING US. I SUGGEST A SPECIAL AREA FOR TEST FLT IN THE WICHITA AREA FOR THE MANUFACTURERS THERE AS WELL AS THE AIR FORCE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.