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Attributes | |
ACN | 893823 |
Time | |
Date | 201006 |
Local Time Of Day | 0001-0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
State Reference | US |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | B727-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Takeoff |
Route In Use | None |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Flight Instructor |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 105 Flight Crew Total 5378 Flight Crew Type 1080 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural FAR Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Procedural Weight And Balance |
Narrative:
We received approximately 22;000 lbs of freight on 12 pallets and it was a flat load (all pallets weighed the same). The flight engineer is responsible for overseeing the loading of the aircraft and calculating the weight and balance of the aircraft and performance numbers. During the final loading I was in the cockpit along with the first officer loading the FMS and GPS and setting up other cockpit items for the flight. The flight engineer appeared and indicated that load was complete and handed me the west & B for the aircraft. I signed it and set the stab trim for takeoff. We completed the checklists and taxied for takeoff. At vr I began rotation and was surprised as how fast the nose came up. I immediately forced the yolk forward trying to keep the tail skid from hitting the runway and began running the trim forward to reduce the amount of control pressure. The stab trim setting of 7.1 obtained by the flight engineer and given to me was incorrect. I was able to avoid at tail strike and got off the high speed trim around 3.5 units. Once in cruise I queried the flight engineer about the load. He indicated the aircraft was not loaded the [way] he wanted it but west & B was [done] the way he wanted [it] loaded and that he didn't change it [to] reflect the correct load. I was shocked that he had [known] this and was too lazy to make the changes. I sent letters to both: my chief pilot; check airman; and check flight engineer over his performance. The flight engineer also failed to correctly perform some other procedures on the flight engineer panel that I had to correct him on. In my opinion this flight engineer's advanced age (72) is playing a significant roll in his lack of performance and coupled with his lazy attitude he is danger to any crew that flies with him.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B727-200 Captain reported that the Flight Engineer's freight loading schedule was not completed as requested but he failed to change the Weight and Balance to reflect the as loaded condition. On takeoff; the Captain had to roll in nose down trim to prevent a tail strike. The Captain believed the Flight Engineer's advanced age was factor.
Narrative: We received approximately 22;000 lbs of freight on 12 pallets and it was a flat load (all pallets weighed the same). The Flight Engineer is responsible for overseeing the loading of the aircraft and calculating the weight and balance of the aircraft and performance numbers. During the final loading I was in the cockpit along with the First Officer loading the FMS and GPS and setting up other cockpit items for the flight. The Flight Engineer appeared and indicated that load was complete and handed me the W & B for the aircraft. I signed it and set the Stab Trim for takeoff. We completed the checklists and taxied for takeoff. At Vr I began rotation and was surprised as how fast the nose came up. I immediately forced the yolk forward trying to keep the tail skid from hitting the runway and began running the trim forward to reduce the amount of control pressure. The stab trim setting of 7.1 obtained by the Flight Engineer and given to me was incorrect. I was able to avoid at tail strike and got off the high speed trim around 3.5 units. Once in cruise I queried the Flight Engineer about the load. He indicated the aircraft was not loaded the [way] he wanted it but W & B was [done] the way he wanted [it] loaded and that he didn't change it [to] reflect the correct load. I was shocked that he had [known] this and was too lazy to make the changes. I sent letters to both: my Chief Pilot; Check Airman; and Check Flight Engineer over his performance. The Flight Engineer also failed to correctly perform some other procedures on the Flight Engineer Panel that I had to correct him on. In my opinion this Flight Engineer's advanced age (72) is playing a significant roll in his lack of performance and coupled with his lazy attitude he is danger to any crew that flies with him.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.