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B737-700 flight crew missed their ATC assigned crossing restriction on arrival to lax.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 900143 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201007 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | LAX.Airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Mixed |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | B737-700 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Descent |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | First Officer |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 244 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Deviation - Altitude Crossing Restriction Not Met Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Speed All Types |
Narrative:
On the arrival; we were set up for 24R and were told to cross riivr at 13;000 and expect 25L. We requested 24R and was told it didn't look good. The captain started to set the FMC up for 25L and; approximately ninety seconds later; we were told to cross seevu at 250 knots and then cleared for the 25L approach. We were at 280 knots previously assigned. I then went heads-down to finish setting up for the 25L approach. A few seconds later; ATC asked us to start our descent to 13;000; which is when I saw we were high on the arrival. The captain started the descent with the speed brakes. We would have met the crossing; but then we were asked if we were at 250 knots. I confirmed we were at 280 and told to slow to 250 at seevu. We were then told he wanted us at 230 knots immediately. We started to slow and I realized we would never meet the crossing. I informed ATC who then gave us a heading south of the arrival and we were told to descend to 11;000 and to expect a turn back on course in one minute. We were then turned back in and landed without incident. (Of note; the captain later told me we were given relief for the crossing restriction to slow; but I never heard it.) we never missed a crossing because of the vector after informing ATC we would miss it; but it was enough of a cluster to file an as soon as possible report.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737-700 flight crew missed their ATC assigned crossing restriction on arrival to LAX.
Narrative: On the arrival; we were set up for 24R and were told to cross RIIVR at 13;000 and expect 25L. We requested 24R and was told it didn't look good. The Captain started to set the FMC up for 25L and; approximately ninety seconds later; we were told to cross SEEVU at 250 knots and then cleared for the 25L approach. We were at 280 knots previously assigned. I then went heads-down to finish setting up for the 25L approach. A few seconds later; ATC asked us to start our descent to 13;000; which is when I saw we were high on the arrival. The Captain started the descent with the speed brakes. We would have met the crossing; but then we were asked if we were at 250 knots. I confirmed we were at 280 and told to slow to 250 at SEEVU. We were then told he wanted us at 230 knots immediately. We started to slow and I realized we would never meet the crossing. I informed ATC who then gave us a heading south of the arrival and we were told to descend to 11;000 and to expect a turn back on course in one minute. We were then turned back in and landed without incident. (Of note; the Captain later told me we were given relief for the crossing restriction to slow; but I never heard it.) We never missed a crossing because of the vector after informing ATC we would miss it; but it was enough of a cluster to file an ASAP Report.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.