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Attributes | |
ACN | 90035 |
Time | |
Date | 198807 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : stl |
State Reference | MO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : stl |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 270 |
ASRS Report | 90035 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We had been holding at the oddly intersection due to a runway closure at stl. We were low on fuel but still legal. There was some tension due to the low fuel situation. At approximately XA05 while being vectored by approach the controller gave us a left turn to a heading of 210 degree. The captain read back the clearance of left to 210 degree. At this time company was calling on the other radio, it was a distraction so I was turning the volume down on the company radio. Before I could get my hand to the heading control of the autoplt the captain turned it and the aircraft started a left turn. At this time the captain said 'let's turn this thing around'. Since it was my leg, that is I was flying and the captain was the non flying pilot, his turning the aircraft surprised me for a second. I looked up and saw an large transport at 12 O'clock and approximately 7 mi. I pointed it out to the captain and remarked that that was the aircraft we would be following on the approach. It was at this time I noticed that we had turned through our assigned heading of 210 degree. I disconnected the heading mode of the autoplt and quickly turned back to 210 degree. All this happened in just a few seconds. The captain had turned the heading control to 120 degree. I should add that the company I fly for likes us to fly every other leg and uses a system of flying pilot and non flying pilot. This is to say that the flying pilot makes all the turns, climbs and descents and so on (he flies the aircraft). The non flying pilot performs the duties of the non flying pilot and monitors the flying pilot. He does not make turns. The captain still has the final say. It is all in our operations manual. If we each do our job and not part of the other's job without saying what we have done, things like this would not happen. I like to do things in a deliberate manner and not rush, I feel it is safer than rushing and I seem to get there just as fast as the rest of the people I fly with. The cockpit is no place for confusion as to who does what and who did what. (Imagine that you are driving your car and the person next to you grabs the wheel and turns the car and you get penalized for his actions, how would you feel?) I hope that this will help others from making the same mistakes as we made. I will be watching the non flying pilot closer.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MLG WAS SLOW TO TURN TO ASSIGNED HEADING AND THEN TURNED TO WRONG HEADING.
Narrative: WE HAD BEEN HOLDING AT THE ODDLY INTXN DUE TO A RWY CLOSURE AT STL. WE WERE LOW ON FUEL BUT STILL LEGAL. THERE WAS SOME TENSION DUE TO THE LOW FUEL SITUATION. AT APPROX XA05 WHILE BEING VECTORED BY APCH THE CTLR GAVE US A LEFT TURN TO A HDG OF 210 DEG. THE CAPT READ BACK THE CLRNC OF LEFT TO 210 DEG. AT THIS TIME COMPANY WAS CALLING ON THE OTHER RADIO, IT WAS A DISTR SO I WAS TURNING THE VOLUME DOWN ON THE COMPANY RADIO. BEFORE I COULD GET MY HAND TO THE HDG CONTROL OF THE AUTOPLT THE CAPT TURNED IT AND THE ACFT STARTED A LEFT TURN. AT THIS TIME THE CAPT SAID 'LET'S TURN THIS THING AROUND'. SINCE IT WAS MY LEG, THAT IS I WAS FLYING AND THE CAPT WAS THE NON FLYING PLT, HIS TURNING THE ACFT SURPRISED ME FOR A SECOND. I LOOKED UP AND SAW AN LGT AT 12 O'CLOCK AND APPROX 7 MI. I POINTED IT OUT TO THE CAPT AND REMARKED THAT THAT WAS THE ACFT WE WOULD BE FOLLOWING ON THE APCH. IT WAS AT THIS TIME I NOTICED THAT WE HAD TURNED THROUGH OUR ASSIGNED HDG OF 210 DEG. I DISCONNECTED THE HDG MODE OF THE AUTOPLT AND QUICKLY TURNED BACK TO 210 DEG. ALL THIS HAPPENED IN JUST A FEW SECONDS. THE CAPT HAD TURNED THE HDG CONTROL TO 120 DEG. I SHOULD ADD THAT THE COMPANY I FLY FOR LIKES US TO FLY EVERY OTHER LEG AND USES A SYSTEM OF FLYING PLT AND NON FLYING PLT. THIS IS TO SAY THAT THE FLYING PLT MAKES ALL THE TURNS, CLIMBS AND DESCENTS AND SO ON (HE FLIES THE ACFT). THE NON FLYING PLT PERFORMS THE DUTIES OF THE NON FLYING PLT AND MONITORS THE FLYING PLT. HE DOES NOT MAKE TURNS. THE CAPT STILL HAS THE FINAL SAY. IT IS ALL IN OUR OPERATIONS MANUAL. IF WE EACH DO OUR JOB AND NOT PART OF THE OTHER'S JOB WITHOUT SAYING WHAT WE HAVE DONE, THINGS LIKE THIS WOULD NOT HAPPEN. I LIKE TO DO THINGS IN A DELIBERATE MANNER AND NOT RUSH, I FEEL IT IS SAFER THAN RUSHING AND I SEEM TO GET THERE JUST AS FAST AS THE REST OF THE PEOPLE I FLY WITH. THE COCKPIT IS NO PLACE FOR CONFUSION AS TO WHO DOES WHAT AND WHO DID WHAT. (IMAGINE THAT YOU ARE DRIVING YOUR CAR AND THE PERSON NEXT TO YOU GRABS THE WHEEL AND TURNS THE CAR AND YOU GET PENALIZED FOR HIS ACTIONS, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL?) I HOPE THAT THIS WILL HELP OTHERS FROM MAKING THE SAME MISTAKES AS WE MADE. I WILL BE WATCHING THE NON FLYING PLT CLOSER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.