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Attributes | |
ACN | 924231 |
Time | |
Date | 201012 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | RDU.TRACON |
State Reference | NC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Skylane 182/RG Turbo Skylane/RG |
Flight Phase | Cruise |
Route In Use | Vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Departure |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types |
Narrative:
OJT was being conducted on combined positions ndr/sdr. Aircraft X checked on frequency and requested a deviation to the east to have a look at something northeast of hrj airport. The seymour johnson echo MOA was active. The trainee obtained approval from fay for turns and approved the pilot's request. I then asked the trainee if there was a potential problem and he told me of the MOA. I let the aircraft get to a point that I wasn't comfortable anymore and told the trainee to turn the airplane. He did and the pilot delayed his turn. I then told the aircraft to start his turn now. I am not sure if we had less than the required 3 miles from the boundary; but it was close. After corrective action was taken; the trainee explained to me he thought he only need 1 1/2 miles from the boundary. There were not aircraft observed near the MOA boundary at the time of the incident. Recommendation; in retrospect; the request should have been denied until such time as coordination was effected with seymour johnson or had the aircraft descend to an altitude below the MOA after coordination.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RDU Controller described a MOA restricted airspace separation event when a developmental was late in issuing corrective vectors to the aircraft in question.
Narrative: OJT was being conducted on combined positions NDR/SDR. Aircraft X checked on frequency and requested a deviation to the east to have a look at something Northeast of HRJ airport. The Seymour Johnson ECHO MOA was active. The trainee obtained approval from FAY for turns and approved the pilot's request. I then asked the trainee if there was a potential problem and he told me of the MOA. I let the aircraft get to a point that I wasn't comfortable anymore and told the trainee to turn the airplane. He did and the pilot delayed his turn. I then told the aircraft to start his turn now. I am not sure if we had less than the required 3 miles from the boundary; but it was close. After corrective action was taken; the trainee explained to me he thought he only need 1 1/2 miles from the boundary. There were not aircraft observed near the MOA boundary at the time of the incident. Recommendation; in retrospect; the request should have been denied until such time as coordination was effected with Seymour Johnson or had the aircraft descend to an altitude below the MOA after coordination.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.