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Attributes | |
ACN | 92543 |
Time | |
Date | 198808 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : sea |
State Reference | WA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 8200 msl bound upper : 9000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute airway : zse |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 130 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 585 |
ASRS Report | 92543 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 300 vertical : 300 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
During climb out from sea at about 7000' on an IFR flight plan, the ATC controller reported traffic at 1 O'clock at 8700' of altitude. The controller told us to maintain 8200' till clear of traffic, which he was not controling. We called the traffic in sight and said we would maintain visual from the aircraft. The controller cleared us to climb to an altitude of 23000'. While climbing, the VFR aircraft at 8700' appeared to change course towards us and climb a bit, to about 9000'. This caused our aircraft to alter course slightly, and climb at a faster pace. The 2 aircraft came within about 300' of each other. Our aircraft had landing lights, strobe, navigation and wing anti-ice lights on for collision avoidance. The VFR aircraft never saw us. I feel that no one was at fault in this situation. It could not have been avoided. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: reporter states second aircraft was an small aircraft, no lights on. Even with close proximity reporter feels not a real problem as they had traffic in sight constantly. He does not consider alteration of course and climb rate as evasive action.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC.
Narrative: DURING CLBOUT FROM SEA AT ABOUT 7000' ON AN IFR FLT PLAN, THE ATC CTLR RPTED TFC AT 1 O'CLOCK AT 8700' OF ALT. THE CTLR TOLD US TO MAINTAIN 8200' TILL CLEAR OF TFC, WHICH HE WAS NOT CTLING. WE CALLED THE TFC IN SIGHT AND SAID WE WOULD MAINTAIN VISUAL FROM THE ACFT. THE CTLR CLRED US TO CLB TO AN ALT OF 23000'. WHILE CLBING, THE VFR ACFT AT 8700' APPEARED TO CHANGE COURSE TOWARDS US AND CLB A BIT, TO ABOUT 9000'. THIS CAUSED OUR ACFT TO ALTER COURSE SLIGHTLY, AND CLB AT A FASTER PACE. THE 2 ACFT CAME WITHIN ABOUT 300' OF EACH OTHER. OUR ACFT HAD LNDG LIGHTS, STROBE, NAV AND WING ANTI-ICE LIGHTS ON FOR COLLISION AVOIDANCE. THE VFR ACFT NEVER SAW US. I FEEL THAT NO ONE WAS AT FAULT IN THIS SITUATION. IT COULD NOT HAVE BEEN AVOIDED. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: RPTR STATES SECOND ACFT WAS AN SMA, NO LIGHTS ON. EVEN WITH CLOSE PROX RPTR FEELS NOT A REAL PROB AS THEY HAD TFC IN SIGHT CONSTANTLY. HE DOES NOT CONSIDER ALTERATION OF COURSE AND CLB RATE AS EVASIVE ACTION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.