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Attributes | |
ACN | 92987 |
Time | |
Date | 198808 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : pmd airport : l01 |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Military Trainer |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute airway : v137 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Sail Plane |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
ASRS Report | 92987 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : military |
Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : military |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 450 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I was controling traffic in sector 18 of left.a. ARTCC. Military trainer X was handed off from edw approach control at 11000' going southeast on V137. After 1 min on frequency MTR X advised me that he just had a glider pop up in front of him. I responded and informed MTR X that I painted no targets in that area. The problem is gliders don't have transponders and are detectable on radar only rarely. The glider area 20 mi southeast of palmdale is a bad area for that function and creates a safety hazard for other aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC BETWEEN MIL TRAINER AND GLIDER. PLT DEVIATION.
Narrative: I WAS CTLING TFC IN SECTOR 18 OF L.A. ARTCC. MIL TRAINER X WAS HANDED OFF FROM EDW APCH CTL AT 11000' GOING SE ON V137. AFTER 1 MIN ON FREQ MTR X ADVISED ME THAT HE JUST HAD A GLIDER POP UP IN FRONT OF HIM. I RESPONDED AND INFORMED MTR X THAT I PAINTED NO TARGETS IN THAT AREA. THE PROB IS GLIDERS DON'T HAVE TRANSPONDERS AND ARE DETECTABLE ON RADAR ONLY RARELY. THE GLIDER AREA 20 MI SE OF PALMDALE IS A BAD AREA FOR THAT FUNCTION AND CREATES A SAFETY HAZARD FOR OTHER ACFT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.