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Attributes | |
ACN | 93303 |
Time | |
Date | 198808 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : psp |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 1700 |
ASRS Report | 93303 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 195 flight time total : 8300 flight time type : 4400 |
ASRS Report | 92977 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
At XA05Z en route to sfo, 30 mins late, with a departure window of XA11Z to XA13Z. Prior to leaving gate, F/a's complied with policy and notified us that all passenger were seated and carry on items secured. Reaching end of runway we were instructed to hold short and about 30 seconds later cleared into position. I told the 'C' F/a to close the cockpit door and she said there was on F/a still standing. Although we had been cleared for takeoff, we continued to hold in position. I then heard the F/a say that they were ready. The cockpit door was then closed and the captain gave the 3 bell signal instead of a departure announcement. We then started takeoff roll. We complied with all FAA and company regulations as stated. The captain later informed me that an FAA inspector sitting in the back, told him that the F/a's were standing during takeoff roll and that he was going to make a written report of the incident. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: confirmed the flight crew had been advised by the cabin attendant they were ready for takeoff. Suspect that as the power was coming up the cabin attendant in the back were just getting in their seats. FAA was not operating in an official capacity but returning to home base. Has not heard anything further from company or FAA. Report was made to the company.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CABIN ATTENDANT STANDING DURING TKOF.
Narrative: AT XA05Z ENRTE TO SFO, 30 MINS LATE, WITH A DEP WINDOW OF XA11Z TO XA13Z. PRIOR TO LEAVING GATE, F/A'S COMPLIED WITH POLICY AND NOTIFIED US THAT ALL PAX WERE SEATED AND CARRY ON ITEMS SECURED. REACHING END OF RWY WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO HOLD SHORT AND ABOUT 30 SECS LATER CLRED INTO POS. I TOLD THE 'C' F/A TO CLOSE THE COCKPIT DOOR AND SHE SAID THERE WAS ON F/A STILL STANDING. ALTHOUGH WE HAD BEEN CLRED FOR TKOF, WE CONTINUED TO HOLD IN POS. I THEN HEARD THE F/A SAY THAT THEY WERE READY. THE COCKPIT DOOR WAS THEN CLOSED AND THE CAPT GAVE THE 3 BELL SIGNAL INSTEAD OF A DEP ANNOUNCEMENT. WE THEN STARTED TKOF ROLL. WE COMPLIED WITH ALL FAA AND COMPANY REGS AS STATED. THE CAPT LATER INFORMED ME THAT AN FAA INSPECTOR SITTING IN THE BACK, TOLD HIM THAT THE F/A'S WERE STANDING DURING TKOF ROLL AND THAT HE WAS GOING TO MAKE A WRITTEN RPT OF THE INCIDENT. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: CONFIRMED THE FLT CREW HAD BEEN ADVISED BY THE CABIN ATTENDANT THEY WERE READY FOR TKOF. SUSPECT THAT AS THE PWR WAS COMING UP THE CABIN ATTENDANT IN THE BACK WERE JUST GETTING IN THEIR SEATS. FAA WAS NOT OPERATING IN AN OFFICIAL CAPACITY BUT RETURNING TO HOME BASE. HAS NOT HEARD ANYTHING FURTHER FROM COMPANY OR FAA. RPT WAS MADE TO THE COMPANY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.