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Attributes | |
ACN | 93440 |
Time | |
Date | 198808 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : clt |
State Reference | NC |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1800 msl bound upper : 2300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : clt |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 70 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 70 |
ASRS Report | 93440 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 4500 flight time type : 900 |
ASRS Report | 93437 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Localizer back course R23. Cleared for approach. Crossed atell at 3000' MSL, began descent to cross lecar FAF at 2300' MSL. 1 1/2 mi prior to lecar aircraft banked left 20 degrees. I disconnected autoplt immediately and banked to right and overshot centered localizer, but did maintain localizer information and valid lock on entire time. While busy with azimuth control, I descended to 1800' MSL at 7 DME. I immediately leveled off. I did have visual contact with the ground at all times and did acquire the runway visually at 1800'. Problem arose due to: CDU was programmed direct atell, direct lecar, with localizer back course R23 approach. Legs page was verified with proper altitudes and headings. Captain was misled into believing aircraft was set up for approach. Corrective action: at first banking of aircraft, I immediately disconnected autoplt and hand flew aircraft. Suggestions: the medium large transport needs a localizer back course function. Reason: the CDU was programmed and LNAV was used to fly direct atell, direct lecar. Aircraft did so. On departure/arrival page, selected localizer back course 23. After clearing all route discontinuities, headings and altitudes were verified correct for approach. Just prior to lecar LNAV information was no longer available and aircraft banked. I assumed when LNAV disengaged, aircraft would remain straight and level and I would be able to follow raw data on the back course approach. With my attention diverted to latitude control, I allowed aircraft to descend to 1800', 500' below required altitude at lecar. Suggestion: clt uses R23 as a primary instrument runway. With 2 north/south long instrument runways (36L/right), noise abatement during instrument conditions should not dictate which runway will be used. Supplemental information from acn 93437: this problem arose due to CDU programmed direct atell, direct lecar with localizer backcourse 23 approach in computer. The legs page verified proper altitudes and headings. The captain was misled to believe he was set up for approach. Callback conversation with reporter acn 93437 revealed the following: reporter stated they did this approach again later in the day and the FMC performed properly. Not certain what caused excursion on intercept, but was certain approach was not armed. Maybe gremlins.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG ON VNAV INCURRED HEADING EXCURSION ON LOCALIZER INTERCEPT AND IN CORRECTING AZIMUTH MANUALLY ALT CROSSING RESTRICTION WAS OVERSHOT ON DESCENT.
Narrative: LOC BACK COURSE R23. CLRED FOR APCH. CROSSED ATELL AT 3000' MSL, BEGAN DSCNT TO CROSS LECAR FAF AT 2300' MSL. 1 1/2 MI PRIOR TO LECAR ACFT BANKED LEFT 20 DEGS. I DISCONNECTED AUTOPLT IMMEDIATELY AND BANKED TO RIGHT AND OVERSHOT CENTERED LOC, BUT DID MAINTAIN LOC INFO AND VALID LOCK ON ENTIRE TIME. WHILE BUSY WITH AZIMUTH CONTROL, I DSNDED TO 1800' MSL AT 7 DME. I IMMEDIATELY LEVELED OFF. I DID HAVE VISUAL CONTACT WITH THE GND AT ALL TIMES AND DID ACQUIRE THE RWY VISUALLY AT 1800'. PROB AROSE DUE TO: CDU WAS PROGRAMMED DIRECT ATELL, DIRECT LECAR, WITH LOC BACK COURSE R23 APCH. LEGS PAGE WAS VERIFIED WITH PROPER ALTS AND HDGS. CAPT WAS MISLED INTO BELIEVING ACFT WAS SET UP FOR APCH. CORRECTIVE ACTION: AT FIRST BANKING OF ACFT, I IMMEDIATELY DISCONNECTED AUTOPLT AND HAND FLEW ACFT. SUGGESTIONS: THE MLG NEEDS A LOC BACK COURSE FUNCTION. REASON: THE CDU WAS PROGRAMMED AND LNAV WAS USED TO FLY DIRECT ATELL, DIRECT LECAR. ACFT DID SO. ON DEP/ARR PAGE, SELECTED LOC BACK COURSE 23. AFTER CLRING ALL ROUTE DISCONTINUITIES, HDGS AND ALTS WERE VERIFIED CORRECT FOR APCH. JUST PRIOR TO LECAR LNAV INFO WAS NO LONGER AVAILABLE AND ACFT BANKED. I ASSUMED WHEN LNAV DISENGAGED, ACFT WOULD REMAIN STRAIGHT AND LEVEL AND I WOULD BE ABLE TO FOLLOW RAW DATA ON THE BACK COURSE APCH. WITH MY ATTN DIVERTED TO LAT CONTROL, I ALLOWED ACFT TO DSND TO 1800', 500' BELOW REQUIRED ALT AT LECAR. SUGGESTION: CLT USES R23 AS A PRIMARY INSTRUMENT RWY. WITH 2 N/S LONG INSTRUMENT RWYS (36L/R), NOISE ABATEMENT DURING INSTRUMENT CONDITIONS SHOULD NOT DICTATE WHICH RWY WILL BE USED. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 93437: THIS PROB AROSE DUE TO CDU PROGRAMMED DIRECT ATELL, DIRECT LECAR WITH LOC BACKCOURSE 23 APCH IN COMPUTER. THE LEGS PAGE VERIFIED PROPER ALTS AND HDGS. THE CAPT WAS MISLED TO BELIEVE HE WAS SET UP FOR APCH. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR ACN 93437 REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: RPTR STATED THEY DID THIS APCH AGAIN LATER IN THE DAY AND THE FMC PERFORMED PROPERLY. NOT CERTAIN WHAT CAUSED EXCURSION ON INTERCEPT, BUT WAS CERTAIN APCH WAS NOT ARMED. MAYBE GREMLINS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.