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Attributes | |
ACN | 942032 |
Time | |
Date | 201104 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | SAN.Airport |
State Reference | CA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Descent |
Route In Use | STAR LYNDI 2 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | First Officer |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 131 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types |
Narrative:
During the arrival into san; we were cleared for the lyndi 2 STAR. During descent to lucki; approach stated; 'cross vydda at or above 4;000 ft and cleared for the approach.' vydda was not on the STAR. This caused confusion on the flight deck because we had not been cleared to vydda. After clarifying with approach; they cleared us off the STAR direct to vydda. Approach should clear to a fix before giving crossing and subsequent routing.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: An Approach Controller failed to clear a flight to a fix before giving it a crossing restriction and route clearance beyond the fix.
Narrative: During the arrival into SAN; we were cleared for the LYNDI 2 STAR. During descent to LUCKI; Approach stated; 'Cross VYDDA at or above 4;000 FT and cleared for the approach.' VYDDA was not on the STAR. This caused confusion on the flight deck because we had not been cleared to VYDDA. After clarifying with Approach; they cleared us off the STAR direct to VYDDA. Approach should clear to a fix before giving crossing and subsequent routing.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.