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Attributes | |
ACN | 946998 |
Time | |
Date | 201105 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | TEB.Airport |
State Reference | NJ |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Challenger CL604 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Initial Climb |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Not Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Events | |
Anomaly | Deviation - Altitude Overshoot Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
We were issued the ruudy 2 departure out of kteb which requires a level off at 1;500 ft. I was the pilot not flying. A new-hire pilot was the pilot flying from the left seat. The aircraft was fairly light with only 7;400 pounds of fuel on board which would facilitate a good climb rate. We were in the midst of a 'quick turn' so we could return to pick up passengers. We were already late so there was unspoken pressure; I think; to not delay our departure. Upon initial rotation the aircraft pitched to fourteen degrees and quickly climbed to 1;500 ft. The pilot flying; while doing a commendable job flying the aircraft; slightly over shot our assigned altitude. We got to 1;700 ft for a period of three to five seconds before we returned to 1;500 ft -- our assigned altitude per the ruudy 2. ATC issued no instructions or made any comments. We received no TCAS advisories. However; the departure was obviously not flown as published and briefed by the flight crew. It is well understood the close proximity to air traffic landing and departing newark airport when operating in and out of teterboro. Training was being conducted on this flight. This leg was the first time I had flown with this pilot with his acting as the pilot flying. In the future; when in this situation; it would be prudent to thoroughly review the challenger 604/605's climbing characteristics -- specifically; how much nose down trim is required after rotation and the manual adjustment required of the auto-throttle system to ensure precise aircraft control and handling. The pilot flying and I thoroughly debriefed the matter and I'm confident that such an event will not transpire again when either one of us is operating out of teb.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CL-604 Captain reported deviating from the RUUDY2 departure; indicating that a light aircraft weight and a new First Officer were factors.
Narrative: We were issued the RUUDY 2 departure out of KTEB which requires a level off at 1;500 FT. I was the pilot not flying. A new-hire pilot was the pilot flying from the left seat. The aircraft was fairly light with only 7;400 LBS of fuel on board which would facilitate a good climb rate. We were in the midst of a 'quick turn' so we could return to pick up passengers. We were already late so there was unspoken pressure; I think; to not delay our departure. Upon initial rotation the aircraft pitched to fourteen degrees and quickly climbed to 1;500 FT. The pilot flying; while doing a commendable job flying the aircraft; slightly over shot our assigned altitude. We got to 1;700 FT for a period of three to five seconds before we returned to 1;500 FT -- our assigned altitude per the RUUDY 2. ATC issued no instructions or made any comments. We received no TCAS advisories. However; the departure was obviously not flown as published and briefed by the flight crew. It is well understood the close proximity to air traffic landing and departing Newark Airport when operating in and out of Teterboro. Training was being conducted on this flight. This leg was the first time I had flown with this pilot with his acting as the pilot flying. In the future; when in this situation; it would be prudent to thoroughly review the Challenger 604/605's climbing characteristics -- specifically; how much nose down trim is required after rotation and the manual adjustment required of the auto-throttle system to ensure precise aircraft control and handling. The pilot flying and I thoroughly debriefed the matter and I'm confident that such an event will not transpire again when either one of us is operating out of TEB.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.