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Attributes | |
ACN | 947645 |
Time | |
Date | 201105 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | MSY.Airport |
State Reference | LA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 179 Flight Crew Type 19000 |
Person 2 | |
Function | First Officer |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 229 Flight Crew Type 7200 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural FAR Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
Cleared [for the] visual [approach] to [runway] 10 at msy. We had ILS tuned on both sides with localizer and glide slope working. Controller cleared us for visual about 12-15 miles out. We began descent and operated at or above glide slope all the way down. Just before handing us off to tower; controller said; 'flight number; you momentarily left class B airspace; but have re-entered. Contact tower' (or words close to that effect.) we were both surprised by the comment since we thought we were at or above glide slope and we thought if on glide slope on [runway] 10 that it would keep aircraft in class B airspace. To our knowledge there was no traffic conflict and controller did not seem upset. Looking at the class B chart 10-1; it is possible the glide slope goes below the 4;000 ft floor momentarily. In which case; I thought controller had to say; 'maintain X until Y distance and then cleared for visual.' preventative measures: if glide slope goes below class B then ATC should state so and give an altitude restriction to contain the aircraft cleared for visual. Crews should look at class B charts as backup.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Air Carrier conducting a visual approach to Runway 10 at MSY was advised by ATC that they had left re-entered the Class B airspace. The reporter noted glide slope adherence should provide for Class B containment.
Narrative: Cleared [for the] visual [approach] to [Runway] 10 at MSY. We had ILS tuned on both sides with LOC and glide slope working. Controller cleared us for visual about 12-15 miles out. We began descent and operated at or above glide slope all the way down. Just before handing us off to Tower; Controller said; 'Flight number; you momentarily left class B airspace; but have re-entered. Contact Tower' (or words close to that effect.) We were both surprised by the comment since we thought we were at or above glide slope and we thought if on glide slope on [Runway] 10 that it would keep aircraft in Class B airspace. To our knowledge there was no traffic conflict and Controller did not seem upset. Looking at the Class B chart 10-1; it is possible the glide slope goes below the 4;000 FT floor momentarily. In which case; I thought Controller had to say; 'Maintain X until Y distance and then cleared for visual.' Preventative measures: If glide slope goes below Class B then ATC should state so and give an altitude restriction to contain the aircraft cleared for visual. Crews should look at Class B charts as backup.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.