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Attributes | |
ACN | 94874 |
Time | |
Date | 198809 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : crp |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other other |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 5200 flight time type : 1200 |
ASRS Report | 94874 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | other personnel other |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
I would like to bring a potentially disastrous situation to your attention. Enclosed is a computer generated sequence. I flew this sequence in a 2-M, automated cockpit medium large transport. I feel it is very unwise to schedule crews from XA07 to XX49 on day one, from XC45 to XG56 the second, and finally from XQ33 to XA35 on the last day. I flew this with a newly upgraded captain with no previous medium large transport experience. Landing in el paso we checked into the hotel at just before XI00. Then after 2 hours sleep got up at XP15. Flying back to dfw was bad enough with the sun rising at our 12 O'clock position. But adding to the already tiring situation is a crp T/a. We flew dfw to crp and had to hold because crp was below minimums. We held at the OM on the ILS with RVR at 1500' until tower visibility was sufficient for a VOR approach to a different runway. With fatigue setting in in a big way, as it was, and trying to keep up with last minute changes, we were maxed out. I shudder to think about equipment malfunction at that point. Recommendation: forget about drug testing and the other nonsense and don't allow companies to fly pilots so far into unreasonable fatigue. Our passenger trust us with their lives.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT CREW COMPLAINS SCHEDULING PRACTICE UNSAFE AND CAUSES FLT CREW FATIGUE.
Narrative: I WOULD LIKE TO BRING A POTENTIALLY DISASTROUS SITUATION TO YOUR ATTN. ENCLOSED IS A COMPUTER GENERATED SEQUENCE. I FLEW THIS SEQUENCE IN A 2-M, AUTOMATED COCKPIT MLG. I FEEL IT IS VERY UNWISE TO SCHEDULE CREWS FROM XA07 TO XX49 ON DAY ONE, FROM XC45 TO XG56 THE SECOND, AND FINALLY FROM XQ33 TO XA35 ON THE LAST DAY. I FLEW THIS WITH A NEWLY UPGRADED CAPT WITH NO PREVIOUS MLG EXPERIENCE. LNDG IN EL PASO WE CHKED INTO THE HOTEL AT JUST BEFORE XI00. THEN AFTER 2 HRS SLEEP GOT UP AT XP15. FLYING BACK TO DFW WAS BAD ENOUGH WITH THE SUN RISING AT OUR 12 O'CLOCK POS. BUT ADDING TO THE ALREADY TIRING SITUATION IS A CRP T/A. WE FLEW DFW TO CRP AND HAD TO HOLD BECAUSE CRP WAS BELOW MINIMUMS. WE HELD AT THE OM ON THE ILS WITH RVR AT 1500' UNTIL TWR VIS WAS SUFFICIENT FOR A VOR APCH TO A DIFFERENT RWY. WITH FATIGUE SETTING IN IN A BIG WAY, AS IT WAS, AND TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH LAST MINUTE CHANGES, WE WERE MAXED OUT. I SHUDDER TO THINK ABOUT EQUIP MALFUNCTION AT THAT POINT. RECOMMENDATION: FORGET ABOUT DRUG TESTING AND THE OTHER NONSENSE AND DON'T ALLOW COMPANIES TO FLY PLTS SO FAR INTO UNREASONABLE FATIGUE. OUR PAX TRUST US WITH THEIR LIVES.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.