Air carrier medium large transport unauthorized runway entry.

Attributes
ACN	95094
Time
Date	198809
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : mdw
State Reference	IL
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	ground other : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 6000
ASRS Report	95094
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 7000
ASRS Report	95247
Events
Anomaly	incursion : runway non adherence : clearance
Independent Detector	other controllera other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Mdw ground control told us to taxi to runway 13R via papa, nov, and hold short of runway 13L. On taxi out there were no taxi signs and construction was going on at airport. Incursion was made on runway 13L from taxi at ramp. Could not tell if papa taxiway was runway or taxiway! No signs! Ground control told us to make immediate right turn because we were on active runway 13L. Airport needs signs so that the problem should not happen again. Also when in doubt, ask, ask ask! Also, chart 11-1 at mdw doesn't show txwys in the proper way so that you won't make the mistakes I did. Please have chart corrected as soon as possible! Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: reviewed the report with reporter and asked if he had 10-9 page available at the time. Reporter could not remember if he had a 10-9 page, but that he would check when he returned to operations office. After callback analyst still thinks the flight crew hurried onto the runway before they took time to look around and verify their position.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR MLG UNAUTH RWY ENTRY.

Narrative: MDW GND CTL TOLD US TO TAXI TO RWY 13R VIA PAPA, NOV, AND HOLD SHORT OF RWY 13L. ON TAXI OUT THERE WERE NO TAXI SIGNS AND CONSTRUCTION WAS GOING ON AT ARPT. INCURSION WAS MADE ON RWY 13L FROM TAXI AT RAMP. COULD NOT TELL IF PAPA TXWY WAS RWY OR TXWY! NO SIGNS! GND CTL TOLD US TO MAKE IMMEDIATE RIGHT TURN BECAUSE WE WERE ON ACTIVE RWY 13L. ARPT NEEDS SIGNS SO THAT THE PROB SHOULD NOT HAPPEN AGAIN. ALSO WHEN IN DOUBT, ASK, ASK ASK! ALSO, CHART 11-1 AT MDW DOESN'T SHOW TXWYS IN THE PROPER WAY SO THAT YOU WON'T MAKE THE MISTAKES I DID. PLEASE HAVE CHART CORRECTED ASAP! CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: REVIEWED THE RPT WITH RPTR AND ASKED IF HE HAD 10-9 PAGE AVAILABLE AT THE TIME. RPTR COULD NOT REMEMBER IF HE HAD A 10-9 PAGE, BUT THAT HE WOULD CHK WHEN HE RETURNED TO OPS OFFICE. AFTER CALLBACK ANALYST STILL THINKS THE FLT CREW HURRIED ONTO THE RWY BEFORE THEY TOOK TIME TO LOOK AROUND AND VERIFY THEIR POS.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.