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Attributes | |
ACN | 959195 |
Time | |
Date | 201107 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | AVP.TRACON |
State Reference | PA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Final Approach |
Route In Use | Visual Approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Not Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Person 2 | |
Function | Pilot Flying First Officer |
Qualification | Flight Crew Commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Inflight Event / Encounter CFTT / CFIT |
Narrative:
On ATC vector for base; approach cleared us for visual runway 4 at avp about 5 to 6 mile out at 4;000 ft (which is MSA for that airport. Starting our descending turn toward runway 4 we got GPWS terrain warning pull up; so we executed a climb; which put us too high for approach into avp; as a result; I cancel my visual clearance; and this time I asked for an ILS approach into runway 4; at this time my altitude was 2;500 and climbing; when we handed down to approach control; he gave us low altitude warning and ask if we have the terrain in sight; and we told them we do have all terrain in sight and he climbed us to 4;000 (MSA) and we shot the ILS 4 and landed subsequently. The event took place because after vectoring us we were cleared for a visual approach in a high terrain airport of which we got GPWS warning; which we had to respond to. The respond caused us to be way up to execute a stable approach; which I decided to cancel my visual approach and proceed with ILS approach. I talked to another captain landing after us; and he told me their airline has a special procedure notice outlining the possibility of getting GPWS coming from that direction (southwest) on visual approach. Having said that; next time I know that not to accept visual approach from that direction after vectoring us; because of the chance of getting GPWS warning; and subsequent break off from approach.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: While descending for a visual approach to AVP Runway 4 the flight crew of an air carrier jet received an EGPWS Terrain warning and initiated a go around. A subsequent ILS to the same runway was uneventful.
Narrative: On ATC vector for base; Approach cleared us for visual Runway 4 at AVP about 5 to 6 mile out at 4;000 FT (which is MSA for that airport. starting our descending turn toward Runway 4 we got GPWS terrain warning pull up; so we executed a climb; which put us too high for approach into AVP; as a result; I cancel my visual clearance; and this time I asked for an ILS approach into Runway 4; at this time my altitude was 2;500 and climbing; when we handed down to Approach Control; he gave us low altitude warning and ask if we have the terrain in sight; and we told them we do have all terrain in sight and he climbed us to 4;000 (MSA) and we shot the ILS 4 and landed subsequently. The event took place because after vectoring us we were cleared for a visual approach in a high terrain airport of which we got GPWS warning; which we had to respond to. The respond caused us to be way up to execute a stable approach; which I decided to cancel my visual approach and proceed with ILS approach. I talked to another Captain landing after us; and he told me their airline has a special procedure Notice outlining the possibility of getting GPWS coming from that direction (southwest) on visual approach. Having said that; next time I know that not to accept visual approach from that direction after vectoring us; because of the chance of getting GPWS warning; and subsequent break off from Approach.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.