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Attributes | |
ACN | 959747 |
Time | |
Date | 201107 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | TOA.Tower |
State Reference | CA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Robinson Helicopter Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Cruise |
Route In Use | Oceanic |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Helicopter |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Cruise |
Person 1 | |
Function | Instructor Pilot Not Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Commercial Flight Crew Rotorcraft Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Flight Instructor |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 70 Flight Crew Total 2000 Flight Crew Type 110 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Conflict NMAC |
Miss Distance | Horizontal 0 Vertical 400 |
Narrative:
I was just coming out of the airport airspace and was attempting to cancel with the tower on a southern shoreline transition. I couldn't reach the tower to cancel (because of a mountain) when I saw a military helicopter 30-40 degrees to my left at approximately same altitude on a northern shoreline transition. I was looking at my location on the map and changing frequency to common when my student mentioned the helicopter was cutting in front of us. I took controls and based on the class B to the surface on my right I climbed above the helicopter approximately 400 ft when he passed us. He then made a right turn and continued up the shoreline.I feel that adhering to the right of way rules could have made it a better transition. It's a very busy area when you are not used to it. I feel if the other helicopter would have gone to the right as described in the far it would have also been no problem. I am not sure what the military's requirements are so this is why I decided to climb and watch his actions since he wasn't doing what I am accustomed to.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: An Instructor and his student aboard a Robinson Helicopter experienced an encounter with Coast Guard Helicopter while departing TOA airspace. The reporter believes the Coast Guard aircraft failed to yield right of way.
Narrative: I was just coming out of the airport airspace and was attempting to cancel with the Tower on a southern shoreline transition. I couldn't reach the Tower to cancel (because of a mountain) when I saw a military helicopter 30-40 degrees to my left at approximately same altitude on a northern shoreline transition. I was looking at my location on the map and changing frequency to common when my student mentioned the helicopter was cutting in front of us. I took controls and based on the Class B to the surface on my right I climbed above the helicopter approximately 400 FT when he passed us. He then made a right turn and continued up the shoreline.I feel that adhering to the right of way rules could have made it a better transition. It's a very busy area when you are not used to it. I feel if the other helicopter would have gone to the right as described in the FAR it would have also been no problem. I am not sure what the military's requirements are so this is why I decided to climb and watch his actions since he wasn't doing what I am accustomed to.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.