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Attributes | |
ACN | 96569 |
Time | |
Date | 198806 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : isp |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : sea |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Helicopter |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 800 |
ASRS Report | 96569 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact none taken : unable |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While taxiing for take off helicopter passed over medium large transport so low (EST less than 100 ft altitude) as to buffet tail of aircraft from downward of rotor on elevators. 'I was on yellow line.' tower operator/supervisor did not seem concerned when discussing situation on phone after landing. She indicated 'I don't control those helicopters.' this was a civil large helo on a joint use field. Also I noticed our past two months helos making approaches less than 100 ft over ramp where jet transports are boarding and discharging passengers. What is the minimum altitude over taxiing or parked aircraft for helicopters? The FAA has no answer for me on that one.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR FLT CREW COMPLAINT ABOUT A HELICOPTER PASSING LOW OVER HIS ACFT. HELICOPTER WAS APPARENTLY CONDUCTING AIR TAXI TO OR FROM TKOF AREA.
Narrative: WHILE TAXIING FOR TAKE OFF HELI PASSED OVER MLG SO LOW (EST LESS THAN 100 FT ALT) AS TO BUFFET TAIL OF ACFT FROM DOWNWARD OF ROTOR ON ELEVATORS. 'I WAS ON YELLOW LINE.' TWR OPERATOR/SUPERVISOR DID NOT SEEM CONCERNED WHEN DISCUSSING SITUATION ON PHONE AFTER LANDING. SHE INDICATED 'I DON'T CONTROL THOSE HELIS.' THIS WAS A CIVIL LARGE HELO ON A JOINT USE FIELD. ALSO I NOTICED OUR PAST TWO MONTHS HELOS MAKING APPROACHES LESS THAN 100 FT OVER RAMP WHERE JET TRANSPORTS ARE BOARDING AND DISCHARGING PASSENGERS. WHAT IS THE MINIMUM ALT OVER TAXIING OR PARKED ACFT FOR HELIS? THE FAA HAS NO ANSWER FOR ME ON THAT ONE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.