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Attributes | |
ACN | 970562 |
Time | |
Date | 201109 |
Local Time Of Day | 0001-0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZZZ.TRACON |
State Reference | US |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Citation II S2/Bravo (C550) |
Flight Phase | Descent |
Route In Use | Vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Departure Approach |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
Training session on final; I was the trainer. There was a full down wind; when aircraft X came on frequency. The aircraft X asked for runway xx; which meant I had to take him over the top of runway yyl and runway yyr finals. This is a common practices. The trainee was unsure so I told him I would do it and he could watch. There were two aircraft on final at 080 on a visual approach. I turned aircraft X base over top at 090. Prior to that the developmental cleared aircraft Y for a visual approach to runway yyl off the downwind. The aircraft Y started base and descended out of 090. Aircraft Y turned a short base and started to cut off the aircraft X. I don't know if separation was lost. But as aircraft Y turned toward aircraft X; he was able to get visual separation. It was close to 3 miles. There was divergence and visual separation but at what point I am unsure. Both aircraft continued to the airport without further incident. My recommendation is during training; if I am going to take over; I should take everything over. I was still letting the developmental work other aircraft. This caused me to lose track the aircraft he had cleared. If I was working everything this would have never been an issue.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TRACON Controller providing OJT elected to partially take over the position to demonstrate a seldom used technique; ultimately resulting in a near loss of separation event.
Narrative: Training session on Final; I was the trainer. There was a full down wind; when Aircraft X came on frequency. The Aircraft X asked for Runway XX; which meant I had to take him over the top of Runway YYL and Runway YYR finals. This is a common practices. The trainee was unsure so I told him I would do it and he could watch. There were two aircraft on final at 080 on a Visual Approach. I turned Aircraft X base over top at 090. Prior to that the developmental cleared Aircraft Y for a Visual Approach to Runway YYL off the downwind. The Aircraft Y started base and descended out of 090. Aircraft Y turned a short base and started to cut off the Aircraft X. I don't know if separation was lost. But as Aircraft Y turned toward Aircraft X; he was able to get visual separation. It was close to 3 miles. There was divergence and visual separation but at what point I am unsure. Both aircraft continued to the airport without further incident. My recommendation is during training; if I am going to take over; I should take everything over. I was still letting the developmental work other aircraft. This caused me to lose track the aircraft he had cleared. If I was working everything this would have never been an issue.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.