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Attributes | |
ACN | 971050 |
Time | |
Date | 201109 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | SFO.Airport |
State Reference | CA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | B757-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | First Officer Pilot Not Flying |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 240 Flight Crew Total 13100 Flight Crew Type 8300 |
Person 2 | |
Function | Pilot Flying Captain |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 200 Flight Crew Total 15000 Flight Crew Type 6000 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Conflict Ground Conflict Less Severe Deviation - Procedural Other / Unknown Ground Event / Encounter Other / Unknown |
Narrative:
I made as standard pushback clearance call and there was a slight delay; but then I received a clearance. I repeated the clearance back carefully; but immediately heard non-standard communication on freq that was confusing and could have been mistaken for bleed through or a switchology error. I then realized someone was questioning our pushback clearance on the ramp frequency; and then distinctly heard; 'don't push; don't push.' I relayed this to the cap't. To my recollection I again asked if we were cleared to push; and thought I heard another positive pushback clearance from the ramp controller. But again it was immediately followed by non-standard transmissions from another party and used words such as; 'what are you stupid?'; and also words that questioned the controller's qualifications such as; 'how can you be qualified to be a tower controller?'. These are not direct quotes; I just want to establish the tone in my report. I asked them 'who' they were and the response was 'maintenance delivery.' once I acquired a visual on the aircraft; and they were at the gate; we again requested clearance for pushback; which was granted. An uneventful pushback was accomplished. At no time were the brakes ever released prior to this because of the confusion of the situation. Also; the cap't asked his tug driver if the aircraft behind us was in sight earlier; and he stated that it was. Not entirely related to this incident; I believe the captain should always be the party getting the pb clearance directly. I realize there are safety issues involved with the tug driver; but in my opinion; these are not as significant as the importance of getting a correct clearance. At a minimum; the captain should at least monitor the receipt of the pb clearance directly from ATC. This avoids the long chain of controller; to first officer; to capt; to tug driver sequence for receipt of clearance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B757 Flight Crew reports being cleared for push back by Ramp Control; only to be countermanded by the maintenance taxi crew of the aircraft passing behind them. Non standard phraseology is used causing some confusion for the reporters.
Narrative: I made as standard pushback clearance call and there was a slight delay; but then I received a clearance. I repeated the clearance back carefully; but immediately heard non-standard communication on freq that was confusing and could have been mistaken for bleed through or a switchology error. I then realized someone was questioning our pushback clearance on the ramp frequency; and then distinctly heard; 'Don't Push; Don't Push.' I relayed this to the Cap't. To my recollection I again asked if we were cleared to push; and thought I heard another positive pushback clearance from the ramp controller. But again it was immediately followed by non-standard transmissions from another party and used words such as; 'What are you stupid?'; and also words that questioned the controller's qualifications such as; 'How can you be qualified to be a tower controller?'. These are not direct quotes; I just want to establish the tone in my report. I asked them 'who' they were and the response was 'Maintenance Delivery.' Once I acquired a visual on the aircraft; and they were at the gate; we again requested clearance for pushback; which was granted. An uneventful pushback was accomplished. At NO time were the brakes ever released prior to this because of the confusion of the situation. Also; the Cap't asked his tug driver if the aircraft behind us was in sight earlier; and he stated that it was. Not entirely related to this incident; I believe the Captain should ALWAYS be the party getting the PB clearance directly. I realize there are safety issues involved with the tug driver; but in my opinion; these are not as significant as the importance of getting a correct clearance. At a minimum; the Captain should at least MONITOR the receipt of the PB clearance directly from ATC. This avoids the long chain of controller; to F/O; to Capt; to tug driver sequence for receipt of clearance.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.