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B757 first officer reports exceeding the start limit egt of 570 C for one second. Maintenance is advised via HF radio and the crew is told they are good to go with an informational write up in the logbook and it will be addressed upon arrival. The crew is later questioned about the decision to continue prior to a maintenance inspection.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 971234 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201109 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0001-0600 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | ZZZZ.Airport |
| State Reference | FO |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | B757-200 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Taxi |
| Route In Use | None |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Component | |
| Aircraft Component | Turbine Engine |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | First Officer Pilot Not Flying |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 180 Flight Crew Total 8500 Flight Crew Type 3000 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Aircraft Equipment Problem Less Severe Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
On pushback [at this high altitude airport] we started the right engine. Winds were calm and right engine egt was below 100C. The engine was starting normally but slowly was reaching the start limit of 570C. The captain initiated an abort and we followed the checklist. The egt reached 574 for 1 second. We then sent an ACARS message to dispatch advising what happened. After several minutes we received ACARS indicating that since it was only momentary that we were good to continue and captain needed to log occurrence as a comment and maintenance will inspect the engine upon arrival. The captain felt uncomfortable with that so he called dispatch on the HF radio. Dispatch advised us that he spoke to maintenance control and we were good to go; no further action was needed. The captain asked to talk directly to maintenance control. Maintenance control advised the captain that indeed that we was cleared to continue and to log it in as a comment and maintenance will do inspection on arrival. In the meantime; captain asked commercial radio to verify that we were cleared to go. Commercial radio informed us to change HF frequency for better reception. On new freq. We could hear dispatch and maintenance control 5 by 5. They both indicated that we no further action was needed and that we were cleared to go and just put writeup in book. Captain for the 3rd time asked to confirm this they did do we attempted another start with no further problems; rest of flight was uneventful. It is my understanding that now dispatch is saying that he never cleared the captain to continue with the flight. Based on the ACARS message and 3 verifications from dispatch and maintenance control to go; I can not justify not going as our job would be on the line if we refused the flight.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B757 First Officer reports exceeding the start limit EGT of 570 C for one second. Maintenance is advised via HF radio and the crew is told they are good to go with an informational write up in the logbook and it will be addressed upon arrival. The crew is later questioned about the decision to continue prior to a maintenance inspection.
Narrative: On pushback [at this high altitude airport] we started the right engine. Winds were calm and Right engine EGT was below 100C. The engine was starting normally but slowly was reaching the start limit of 570C. The Captain initiated an abort and we followed the checklist. The EGT reached 574 for 1 second. We then sent an ACARS message to Dispatch advising what happened. After several minutes we received ACARS indicating that since it was only momentary that we were good to continue and Captain needed to log occurrence as a comment and maintenance will inspect the engine upon arrival. The Captain felt uncomfortable with that so he called Dispatch on the HF radio. Dispatch advised us that he spoke to Maintenance Control and we were good to go; no further action was needed. The Captain asked to talk directly to Maintenance Control. Maintenance Control advised the Captain that indeed that we was cleared to continue and to log it in as a comment and maintenance will do inspection on arrival. In the meantime; Captain asked Commercial Radio to verify that we were cleared to go. Commercial Radio informed us to change HF frequency for better reception. On new freq. we could hear Dispatch and Maintenance Control 5 by 5. They both indicated that we no further action was needed and that we were cleared to go and just put writeup in book. Captain for the 3rd time asked to confirm this they did do we attempted another start with no further problems; rest of flight was uneventful. It is my understanding that now Dispatch is saying that he never cleared the Captain to continue with the flight. Based on the ACARS message and 3 verifications from Dispatch and maintenance control to go; I can not justify not going as our job would be on the line if we refused the flight.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.