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Attributes | |
ACN | 97372 |
Time | |
Date | 198811 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : sli airport : sna |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sna |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Military Trainer |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
ASRS Report | 97372 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : developmental |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 9000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
The small aircraft Y was south of sli VOR nwbnd descending out of 5300, assigned 4000. The MTR X was handed off to me just over the lax localizer southbound descending out of 10500, assigned 8000. On initial contact my student descended the MTR X to 5000 assuming that both aircraft would continue a normal rate of descent. The MTR X descended at approximately 6000 FPM and passed 1.5 mi in front of the small aircraft Y when both were at 5000.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CTLR IN TRAINING DESCENDED A MTR TOO SOON AND HAD LESS THAN STANDARD SEPARATION WITH AN SMA.
Narrative: THE SMA Y WAS SOUTH OF SLI VOR NWBND DSNDING OUT OF 5300, ASSIGNED 4000. THE MTR X WAS HANDED OFF TO ME JUST OVER THE LAX LOC SBND DSNDING OUT OF 10500, ASSIGNED 8000. ON INITIAL CONTACT MY STUDENT DESCENDED THE MTR X TO 5000 ASSUMING THAT BOTH ACFT WOULD CONTINUE A NORMAL RATE OF DSCNT. THE MTR X DESCENDED AT APPROX 6000 FPM AND PASSED 1.5 MI IN FRONT OF THE SMA Y WHEN BOTH WERE AT 5000.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.