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Attributes | |
ACN | 981996 |
Time | |
Date | 201111 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | PHL.Airport |
State Reference | PA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | A319 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Taxi |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Taxi |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict Ground Conflict Less Severe |
Narrative:
After landing in phl on [runway] 9R; [we were] told to hold short [of runway] 9L on november. On tower frequency; I was cleared to cross 9L; aircraft in position is holding; and to contact ramp at spot 8 for taxi to gate. While crossing 9L and not clear of runway; I noticed a B737 aircraft taxiing out of spot 9 on to kilo taxiway. As he established himself on kilo westbound; he appeared to accelerate. Having my clearance to go to spot 8 and noticing his rate of taxi; I had to stop short of kilo to avoid him as it was obvious he was not going to stop. Still on the active side of runway 9L and knowing I was not clear of the runway; I observed an aircraft on takeoff roll. We were on ramp frequency as instructed; so did not know if the B737 was instructed to hold short of november by either ramp or ground. I stopped; allowed the B737 on kilo to clear; and then expeditiously cleared the runway on to spot 8 to ensure the takeoff aircraft could clear my aircraft also. Ramp observed the dilemma. I acquired ground/tower telephone number and spoke with a supervisor after a safe arrival at the gate. He stated that they had erred in both areas of not instructing the B737 to hold short of november and allow me to cross and that tower had cleared another aircraft for takeoff from 9L.ensure ground and tower give appropriate clearances to taxiing/crossing aircraft at the above mentioned taxiway/runway intersections. There is a 'dead zone' of control between ramp and ground in those areas where two intersecting taxiways/runways are not on the same frequency to be able to hear other clearances. Even if they were on the same frequency; the transition from one frequency to another may not allow crew to hear the respective frequencies and clearances. However; when a taxiing aircraft sees that his position will not allow another aircraft to exit an active runway he should yield to that crossing traffic; especially when there is a takeoff in progress. Had I proceeded to taxi to clear the runway; proceed to spot 8 and assume the B737 would stop for me; there would have been a collision type of report filed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A319 Captain reports a taxi conflict with a B737 at PHL on K Taxiway at N. Stopping short of Taxiway K results in the A319 tail being over the Runway 9L hold line with an aircraft on takeoff roll.
Narrative: After landing in PHL on [Runway] 9R; [we were] told to hold short [of Runway] 9L on November. On Tower frequency; I was cleared to cross 9L; aircraft in position is holding; and to contact Ramp at Spot 8 for taxi to gate. While crossing 9L and not clear of runway; I noticed a B737 aircraft taxiing out of Spot 9 on to Kilo Taxiway. As he established himself on Kilo westbound; he appeared to accelerate. Having my clearance to go to Spot 8 and noticing his rate of taxi; I had to stop short of Kilo to avoid him as it was obvious he was not going to stop. Still on the active side of Runway 9L and knowing I was not clear of the runway; I observed an aircraft on takeoff roll. We were on Ramp frequency as instructed; so did not know if the B737 was instructed to hold short of November by either Ramp or Ground. I stopped; allowed the B737 on Kilo to clear; and then expeditiously cleared the runway on to Spot 8 to ensure the takeoff aircraft could clear my aircraft also. Ramp observed the dilemma. I acquired Ground/Tower telephone number and spoke with a Supervisor after a safe arrival at the gate. He stated that they had erred in both areas of not instructing the B737 to hold short of November and allow me to cross and that Tower had cleared another aircraft for takeoff from 9L.Ensure Ground and Tower give appropriate clearances to taxiing/crossing aircraft at the above mentioned taxiway/runway intersections. There is a 'dead zone' of control between Ramp and Ground in those areas where two intersecting taxiways/runways are not on the same frequency to be able to hear other clearances. Even if they were on the same frequency; the transition from one frequency to another may not allow crew to hear the respective frequencies and clearances. However; when a taxiing aircraft sees that his position will not allow another aircraft to exit an active runway he should yield to that crossing traffic; especially when there is a takeoff in progress. Had I proceeded to taxi to clear the runway; proceed to Spot 8 and assume the B737 would stop for me; there would have been a collision type of report filed.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.