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Attributes | |
ACN | 99254 |
Time | |
Date | 198812 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : crq |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1200 msl bound upper : 1200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : san tower : crq |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft |
Flight Phase | other |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 1640 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 99254 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 400 vertical : 50 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
We were climbing out from runway 24 at crq. Tower advised us to extend our upwind to the freeway until turning crosswind. As the student finished turning downwind and initiated a level off, I noticed a tan, straight-tailed small aircraft at our 1 O'clock moving to 12 O'clock position. He appeared to be approximately 300-500' horizontal and 50-100' vertical from us. I took over the controls and started a slight right turn in case the pilot of the small aircraft did not have us in sight and informed the tower that an small aircraft had pass in front of us. The tower tried to contact the small aircraft and received no reply. They told me the small aircraft was an IFR departure and must have been turning early by san departure.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMA IN TRAFFIC PATTERN HAS NAMC WITH A SECOND SMA ON AN INSTRUMENT DEP.
Narrative: WE WERE CLBING OUT FROM RWY 24 AT CRQ. TWR ADVISED US TO EXTEND OUR UPWIND TO THE FREEWAY UNTIL TURNING XWIND. AS THE STUDENT FINISHED TURNING DOWNWIND AND INITIATED A LEVEL OFF, I NOTICED A TAN, STRAIGHT-TAILED SMA AT OUR 1 O'CLOCK MOVING TO 12 O'CLOCK POS. HE APPEARED TO BE APPROX 300-500' HORIZ AND 50-100' VERT FROM US. I TOOK OVER THE CTLS AND STARTED A SLIGHT RIGHT TURN IN CASE THE PLT OF THE SMA DID NOT HAVE US IN SIGHT AND INFORMED THE TWR THAT AN SMA HAD PASS IN FRONT OF US. THE TWR TRIED TO CONTACT THE SMA AND RECEIVED NO REPLY. THEY TOLD ME THE SMA WAS AN IFR DEP AND MUST HAVE BEEN TURNING EARLY BY SAN DEP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.