Air carrier large transport undershot altitude crossing restriction on descent.

Attributes
ACN	100421
Time
Date	198812
Day	Sat
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : mod
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 13500
Environment
Flight Conditions	Mixed
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : oak artcc : zbw
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	descent other
Route In Use	arrival star : star
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 135 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 400
ASRS Report	100421
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : second officer
Qualification	pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 3800 flight time type : 500
ASRS Report	100418
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : clearance
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	other other
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation other

Narrative:

Cleared to cross cedes intersection at 10000'. Captain was flying. I called his attention to the fact that we were going to be high at cedes, he did not care or so it would seem. I then called ZOA and told them we would be high at cedes. We crossed cedes at 13500. The captain's reply to me was 'it really is no big deal'. Supplemental information from acn 100418: the first officer pointed out to the captain on at least 2 occasions that he was going to be high at cedes. The captain said he knew and that it didn't really matter.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR LGT UNDERSHOT ALT CROSSING RESTRICTION ON DESCENT.

Narrative: CLRED TO CROSS CEDES INTXN AT 10000'. CAPT WAS FLYING. I CALLED HIS ATTN TO THE FACT THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE HIGH AT CEDES, HE DID NOT CARE OR SO IT WOULD SEEM. I THEN CALLED ZOA AND TOLD THEM WE WOULD BE HIGH AT CEDES. WE CROSSED CEDES AT 13500. THE CAPT'S REPLY TO ME WAS 'IT REALLY IS NO BIG DEAL'. SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION FROM ACN 100418: THE F/O POINTED OUT TO THE CAPT ON AT LEAST 2 OCCASIONS THAT HE WAS GOING TO BE HIGH AT CEDES. THE CAPT SAID HE KNEW AND THAT IT DIDN'T REALLY MATTER.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.