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Attributes | |
ACN | 101252 |
Time | |
Date | 198812 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : apa |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 7800 msl bound upper : 8000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : den tower : dca |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 57 flight time total : 227 flight time type : 119 |
ASRS Report | 101252 |
Person 2 | |
Function | observation : passenger |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 120 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
We reported leaving buckley ANG on a missed ILS approach (practice only, no hood, excellent VFR) and were told 120 degrees 7500' by den 119.3. 14 NM southeast of buckley ATC instructs '8700, 240 degrees, direct casse upon receiving casse.' casse was identing clearly and indicator homing so we tracked toward casse 240 degrees (estimated 17 mi from casse). At about 13 mi from casse ATC instructed 'climb 8700.' at 8 mi from casse, 7800' (?), my rider squirms (he's been listening to 119.3 all along too), 'I think there is an aircraft southbound coming our way.' seconds later I saw a low wing aircraft at 1:30 in the very top of the windshield. I could see all of him. We dove 200' and I screwed up the pattern entry at centennial airport. I wish ATC could have more people and better equipment/procedures to track VFR. We were in radar contact, squawking assigned code. We had a hunch that the other aircraft was squawking 1200. I understand that our triangular radar 'tag' may have obliterated his 1200 return, and it was very busy that day at centennial and den, both. I went back up for some dual IFR training and I noticed den doing the greatest job of separating VFR/IFR VFR/VFR traffic I have ever heard. May we all learn something that day.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CLOSE PROX 2 GA-SMA ACFT AT BASE OF DEN TCA.
Narrative: WE RPTED LEAVING BUCKLEY ANG ON A MISSED ILS APCH (PRACTICE ONLY, NO HOOD, EXCELLENT VFR) AND WERE TOLD 120 DEGS 7500' BY DEN 119.3. 14 NM SE OF BUCKLEY ATC INSTRUCTS '8700, 240 DEGS, DIRECT CASSE UPON RECEIVING CASSE.' CASSE WAS IDENTING CLEARLY AND INDICATOR HOMING SO WE TRACKED TOWARD CASSE 240 DEGS (ESTIMATED 17 MI FROM CASSE). AT ABOUT 13 MI FROM CASSE ATC INSTRUCTED 'CLB 8700.' AT 8 MI FROM CASSE, 7800' (?), MY RIDER SQUIRMS (HE'S BEEN LISTENING TO 119.3 ALL ALONG TOO), 'I THINK THERE IS AN ACFT SBND COMING OUR WAY.' SECS LATER I SAW A LOW WING ACFT AT 1:30 IN THE VERY TOP OF THE WINDSHIELD. I COULD SEE ALL OF HIM. WE DOVE 200' AND I SCREWED UP THE PATTERN ENTRY AT CENTENNIAL ARPT. I WISH ATC COULD HAVE MORE PEOPLE AND BETTER EQUIP/PROCS TO TRACK VFR. WE WERE IN RADAR CONTACT, SQUAWKING ASSIGNED CODE. WE HAD A HUNCH THAT THE OTHER ACFT WAS SQUAWKING 1200. I UNDERSTAND THAT OUR TRIANGULAR RADAR 'TAG' MAY HAVE OBLITERATED HIS 1200 RETURN, AND IT WAS VERY BUSY THAT DAY AT CENTENNIAL AND DEN, BOTH. I WENT BACK UP FOR SOME DUAL IFR TRNING AND I NOTICED DEN DOING THE GREATEST JOB OF SEPARATING VFR/IFR VFR/VFR TFC I HAVE EVER HEARD. MAY WE ALL LEARN SOMETHING THAT DAY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.