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Attributes | |
ACN | 101388 |
Time | |
Date | 198810 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pfn |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 2800 agl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : pfn tower : mdw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 135 flight time total : 6400 flight time type : 1800 |
ASRS Report | 101388 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : departure |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 200 vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Second of 2 near misses--see attached. After first near miss, changed from tower frequency to approach was accomplished. On initial callback approach advised 'traffic 11 O'clock, less than 1 mi, altitude unknown.' we saw no traffic. Approach advised 'traffic no longer a factor--additional traffic 12 O'clock, less than 1 mi, altitude unknown.' looking intently for traffic was noticed an small aircraft entering a steep banked right descending turn--obviously an evasive maneuver. Our aircraft are equipped (and were in use) 2 wing mounted landing lights--I believe these made our aircraft visible to the small aircraft. In either incident I do not believe pilots or controllers were at fault--but rather faults in the system. See and avoid has limitations. ASRS/FAA should continue and pursue the following: 1) all aircraft should be required mode C. 2) emphasize lights on enhances safety. 3) request all near misses be reported so an accurate picture of this hazard is seen. 4) all scheduled passenger operations need TCAS. 5) all VFR traffic should request advisories from approach/center facs when available (it's cheap insurance).
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CLOSE PROX COMMUTER-LTT GA-SMA NORTH OF PFN NEAR MOA.
Narrative: SECOND OF 2 NEAR MISSES--SEE ATTACHED. AFTER FIRST NEAR MISS, CHANGED FROM TWR FREQ TO APCH WAS ACCOMPLISHED. ON INITIAL CALLBACK APCH ADVISED 'TFC 11 O'CLOCK, LESS THAN 1 MI, ALT UNKNOWN.' WE SAW NO TFC. APCH ADVISED 'TFC NO LONGER A FACTOR--ADDITIONAL TFC 12 O'CLOCK, LESS THAN 1 MI, ALT UNKNOWN.' LOOKING INTENTLY FOR TFC WAS NOTICED AN SMA ENTERING A STEEP BANKED RIGHT DSNDING TURN--OBVIOUSLY AN EVASIVE MANEUVER. OUR ACFT ARE EQUIPPED (AND WERE IN USE) 2 WING MOUNTED LNDG LIGHTS--I BELIEVE THESE MADE OUR ACFT VISIBLE TO THE SMA. IN EITHER INCIDENT I DO NOT BELIEVE PLTS OR CTLRS WERE AT FAULT--BUT RATHER FAULTS IN THE SYS. SEE AND AVOID HAS LIMITATIONS. ASRS/FAA SHOULD CONTINUE AND PURSUE THE FOLLOWING: 1) ALL ACFT SHOULD BE REQUIRED MODE C. 2) EMPHASIZE LIGHTS ON ENHANCES SAFETY. 3) REQUEST ALL NEAR MISSES BE RPTED SO AN ACCURATE PICTURE OF THIS HAZARD IS SEEN. 4) ALL SCHEDULED PAX OPS NEED TCAS. 5) ALL VFR TFC SHOULD REQUEST ADVISORIES FROM APCH/CENTER FACS WHEN AVAILABLE (IT'S CHEAP INSURANCE).
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.