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Attributes | |
ACN | 106235 |
Time | |
Date | 198903 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : slc |
State Reference | UT |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 9000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : slc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors enroute airway : slc |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 103 flight time total : 10974 flight time type : 859 |
ASRS Report | 106235 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | observation : observer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer |
ASRS Report | 106029 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
We were on descent from the west into the slc area under radar vectors for approach sequence to land on 16R at slc. The vector took us over the north part of the ocher mountains on an easterly heading. West of the ochers approach control cleared us to descend to 9000'. My check captain who was flying copilot said he thought that 9000' was too low and recommended a gradual descent. I made a gradual descent with visual reference to the mountains. The GPWS did not sound, however approaching 9000' east of the ochers we were told to climb immediately to 11000'. We started the climb and were then cleared back to 9000' and landing on 16R. A call to approach control after landing confirmed the original clearance to 9000' was in error. Since we were in visual conditions, this was no problem. However a normal descent to 9000' on instruments would have placed the aircraft very close to the ocher mountains. Supplemental information from acn 106029. Telephone contact with approach control on ground in slc confirmed controller error.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CTLR DESCENDED ACFT BELOW MINIMUM VECTORING ALT. OPERATIONAL ERROR.
Narrative: WE WERE ON DSCNT FROM THE W INTO THE SLC AREA UNDER RADAR VECTORS FOR APCH SEQUENCE TO LAND ON 16R AT SLC. THE VECTOR TOOK US OVER THE NORTH PART OF THE OCHER MOUNTAINS ON AN EASTERLY HDG. WEST OF THE OCHERS APCH CTL CLRED US TO DSND TO 9000'. MY CHK CAPT WHO WAS FLYING COPLT SAID HE THOUGHT THAT 9000' WAS TOO LOW AND RECOMMENDED A GRADUAL DSCNT. I MADE A GRADUAL DSCNT WITH VISUAL REFERENCE TO THE MOUNTAINS. THE GPWS DID NOT SOUND, HOWEVER APCHING 9000' E OF THE OCHERS WE WERE TOLD TO CLB IMMEDIATELY TO 11000'. WE STARTED THE CLB AND WERE THEN CLRED BACK TO 9000' AND LNDG ON 16R. A CALL TO APCH CTL AFTER LNDG CONFIRMED THE ORIGINAL CLRNC TO 9000' WAS IN ERROR. SINCE WE WERE IN VISUAL CONDITIONS, THIS WAS NO PROB. HOWEVER A NORMAL DSCNT TO 9000' ON INSTRUMENTS WOULD HAVE PLACED THE ACFT VERY CLOSE TO THE OCHER MOUNTAINS. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 106029. TELEPHONE CONTACT WITH APCH CTL ON GND IN SLC CONFIRMED CTLR ERROR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.