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Attributes | |
ACN | 110937 |
Time | |
Date | 198905 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : ord |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival other enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : straight in arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 140 flight time total : 8250 flight time type : 600 |
ASRS Report | 110937 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited adverse environment flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course none taken : unable |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 500 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
We were being vectored for the visibility to 9L to follow an mdt which we had in sight. After a base heading of 180 degrees we were issued a turn to 120 degrees to intercept 9L and were advised of traffic a 12 O'clock on the parallel to 9R. We had this traffic on medium large transport in sight at our altitude. We had to use bank angles up to 45 degrees and even that put us through 9L and onto 9R centerline, as he was directly behind us. It was obvious we were very close. We were not cleared for the visibility until after we were issued the heading to intercept 9L. We also had been level at 7000' on the downwind leg and were issued a clearance to 3000'. We should not be given crossing or same altitudes when being vectored for visibility parallel approachs until securely established on appropriate runway centerline.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC BETWEEN ACFT ON APCH TO PARALLEL RWYS.
Narrative: WE WERE BEING VECTORED FOR THE VIS TO 9L TO FOLLOW AN MDT WHICH WE HAD IN SIGHT. AFTER A BASE HDG OF 180 DEGS WE WERE ISSUED A TURN TO 120 DEGS TO INTERCEPT 9L AND WERE ADVISED OF TFC A 12 O'CLOCK ON THE PARALLEL TO 9R. WE HAD THIS TFC ON MLG IN SIGHT AT OUR ALT. WE HAD TO USE BANK ANGLES UP TO 45 DEGS AND EVEN THAT PUT US THROUGH 9L AND ONTO 9R CENTERLINE, AS HE WAS DIRECTLY BEHIND US. IT WAS OBVIOUS WE WERE VERY CLOSE. WE WERE NOT CLRED FOR THE VIS UNTIL AFTER WE WERE ISSUED THE HDG TO INTERCEPT 9L. WE ALSO HAD BEEN LEVEL AT 7000' ON THE DOWNWIND LEG AND WERE ISSUED A CLRNC TO 3000'. WE SHOULD NOT BE GIVEN XING OR SAME ALTS WHEN BEING VECTORED FOR VIS PARALLEL APCHS UNTIL SECURELY ESTABLISHED ON APPROPRIATE RWY CENTERLINE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.