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Attributes | |
ACN | 112679 |
Time | |
Date | 198905 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : las |
State Reference | NV |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 7500 msl bound upper : 7500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : las |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | observation : observer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 15 flight time total : 750 flight time type : 30 |
ASRS Report | 112679 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
The problem arose due to a few things. One was that the airport/facility directory (apr 89 to jun 89) listed the arrival ATIS as 116.9, which turned out to be the departure ATIS. After some confusion, the correct frequency was determined. After listening to the information a different approach frequency was given than what was printed on the current VFR terminal area chart. Upon contact with las approach a squawk code was given and when set on the transponder 2 numbers were transposed. ATC called and restated the correct code which was then corrected in the aircraft. Upon radar contact ATC stated that we were already 8 mi inside the TCA. We then followed ATC instructions and landed uneventfully. Upon initial contact with las approach we believed we were over mescuite lake when in fact we were over jean lake. Some things I think that could have prevented the situation would be DME or LORAN, and also greater coverage for flight following (we were using edwards approach and at about barstow they terminated radar services and said we were too low for a handoff.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ENTERED TCA WITHOUT CONTACT.
Narrative: THE PROBLEM AROSE DUE TO A FEW THINGS. ONE WAS THAT THE ARPT/FAC DIRECTORY (APR 89 TO JUN 89) LISTED THE ARR ATIS AS 116.9, WHICH TURNED OUT TO BE THE DEP ATIS. AFTER SOME CONFUSION, THE CORRECT FREQ WAS DETERMINED. AFTER LISTENING TO THE INFO A DIFFERENT APCH FREQ WAS GIVEN THAN WHAT WAS PRINTED ON THE CURRENT VFR TERMINAL AREA CHART. UPON CONTACT WITH LAS APCH A SQUAWK CODE WAS GIVEN AND WHEN SET ON THE XPONDER 2 NUMBERS WERE TRANSPOSED. ATC CALLED AND RESTATED THE CORRECT CODE WHICH WAS THEN CORRECTED IN THE ACFT. UPON RADAR CONTACT ATC STATED THAT WE WERE ALREADY 8 MI INSIDE THE TCA. WE THEN FOLLOWED ATC INSTRUCTIONS AND LANDED UNEVENTFULLY. UPON INITIAL CONTACT WITH LAS APCH WE BELIEVED WE WERE OVER MESCUITE LAKE WHEN IN FACT WE WERE OVER JEAN LAKE. SOME THINGS I THINK THAT COULD HAVE PREVENTED THE SITUATION WOULD BE DME OR LORAN, AND ALSO GREATER COVERAGE FOR FLT FOLLOWING (WE WERE USING EDWARDS APCH AND AT ABOUT BARSTOW THEY TERMINATED RADAR SERVICES AND SAID WE WERE TOO LOW FOR A HANDOFF.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.