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Attributes | |
ACN | 118152 |
Time | |
Date | 198907 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : jac |
State Reference | WY |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : crw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 102 flight time total : 11897 flight time type : 3500 |
ASRS Report | 118152 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 118008 |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Salt lake center cleared us for a visual approach at 14,000' on our descent into jackson. We were delayed in our descent by ATC, however, it did not cause us to be on a high and fast approach as we got closer in. The first officer was flying. Scattered thunderstorms were in the area with much virga and cloud to ground lightning. We flew through rain showers and gusty winds during the approach and set up for a 30 flap landing. The runway was wet but did not appear to have standing water. 40 flaps were selected but speed bugs were not reset from vref 30 to 40. We were headed for touchdown at the 1000' marker but a gust ballooned us slightly beyond it. At touchdown, automatic speed brakes deployed and engines reversed without delay. Automatic brakes were off. Deceleration was not as expected, so the first officer increased reverse thrust. It was apparent we would not stop, so I joined the first officer on the brakes. No increase in braking was apparent and we went off the end, stopping with the nose wheel 117' from the end of the pavement. The airport director was on the scene right away and confirmed that an emergency evacuate/evacuation was not necessary. Passenger were deplaned by airstairs and autos. The airplane was pushed back smoothly and easily onto the pavement 1 hour 10 mins after landing. 5 tires were changed and fan blades dressed. The airplane was ferried out and returned to service at noon the next day. Don't land long and use the automatic brakes. If you don't think your first officer can put it down where you want it, take over and do it yourself.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT CREW OF MLG, FO FLYING, LANDED AT JACKSON HOLE, WY. A BIT HIGH, FAST, UNABLE TO STOP. ROLLED OFF END OF RWY 117'.
Narrative: SALT LAKE CENTER CLRED US FOR A VISUAL APCH AT 14,000' ON OUR DSCNT INTO JACKSON. WE WERE DELAYED IN OUR DSCNT BY ATC, HOWEVER, IT DID NOT CAUSE US TO BE ON A HIGH AND FAST APCH AS WE GOT CLOSER IN. THE F/O WAS FLYING. SCATTERED TSTMS WERE IN THE AREA WITH MUCH VIRGA AND CLOUD TO GND LIGHTNING. WE FLEW THROUGH RAIN SHOWERS AND GUSTY WINDS DURING THE APCH AND SET UP FOR A 30 FLAP LNDG. THE RWY WAS WET BUT DID NOT APPEAR TO HAVE STANDING WATER. 40 FLAPS WERE SELECTED BUT SPEED BUGS WERE NOT RESET FROM VREF 30 TO 40. WE WERE HEADED FOR TOUCHDOWN AT THE 1000' MARKER BUT A GUST BALLOONED US SLIGHTLY BEYOND IT. AT TOUCHDOWN, AUTO SPEED BRAKES DEPLOYED AND ENGINES REVERSED WITHOUT DELAY. AUTO BRAKES WERE OFF. DECELERATION WAS NOT AS EXPECTED, SO THE F/O INCREASED REVERSE THRUST. IT WAS APPARENT WE WOULD NOT STOP, SO I JOINED THE F/O ON THE BRAKES. NO INCREASE IN BRAKING WAS APPARENT AND WE WENT OFF THE END, STOPPING WITH THE NOSE WHEEL 117' FROM THE END OF THE PAVEMENT. THE ARPT DIRECTOR WAS ON THE SCENE RIGHT AWAY AND CONFIRMED THAT AN EMER EVAC WAS NOT NECESSARY. PAX WERE DEPLANED BY AIRSTAIRS AND AUTOS. THE AIRPLANE WAS PUSHED BACK SMOOTHLY AND EASILY ONTO THE PAVEMENT 1 HR 10 MINS AFTER LNDG. 5 TIRES WERE CHANGED AND FAN BLADES DRESSED. THE AIRPLANE WAS FERRIED OUT AND RETURNED TO SERVICE AT NOON THE NEXT DAY. DON'T LAND LONG AND USE THE AUTO BRAKES. IF YOU DON'T THINK YOUR F/O CAN PUT IT DOWN WHERE YOU WANT IT, TAKE OVER AND DO IT YOURSELF.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.