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Attributes | |
ACN | 118565 |
Time | |
Date | 198908 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : djb |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 13000 msl bound upper : 14000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zob tracon : dfw |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct enroute airway : zob |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
ASRS Report | 118565 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Cpr X, an light transport, was descending into cle on V14 when he asked me if I saw traffic for him moving west to east. At first I didn't see him, then as the data block moved on, I saw a primary target and I told cpr X about it. Cpr X explained that he believed it was a fixed winged small aircraft that passed close by and surprised him. When I asked the pilot what altitude the VFR aircraft was at, he estimated between 13,000 and 14,000'. The pilot then asked that we track the aircraft and send him a letter because he was flying above 10,000' without transponder or mode C. As far as I know, no evasive actions were needed, however, I feel that it was a dangerous situation. At the time, the cle clearance delivery was down.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACFT FLT ABOVE 10,000' WITHOUT TRANSPONDER AND MODE C. PLT DEVIATION.
Narrative: CPR X, AN LTT, WAS DESCENDING INTO CLE ON V14 WHEN HE ASKED ME IF I SAW TFC FOR HIM MOVING W TO E. AT FIRST I DIDN'T SEE HIM, THEN AS THE DATA BLOCK MOVED ON, I SAW A PRIMARY TARGET AND I TOLD CPR X ABOUT IT. CPR X EXPLAINED THAT HE BELIEVED IT WAS A FIXED WINGED SMA THAT PASSED CLOSE BY AND SURPRISED HIM. WHEN I ASKED THE PLT WHAT ALT THE VFR ACFT WAS AT, HE ESTIMATED BETWEEN 13,000 AND 14,000'. THE PLT THEN ASKED THAT WE TRACK THE ACFT AND SEND HIM A LETTER BECAUSE HE WAS FLYING ABOVE 10,000' WITHOUT XPONDER OR MODE C. AS FAR AS I KNOW, NO EVASIVE ACTIONS WERE NEEDED, HOWEVER, I FEEL THAT IT WAS A DANGEROUS SITUATION. AT THE TIME, THE CLE CD WAS DOWN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.