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Attributes | |
ACN | 118593 |
Time | |
Date | 198907 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : isp |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 800 agl bound upper : 800 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : mli |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | cruise other other |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Experience | flight time total : 45 |
ASRS Report | 118593 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 200 vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
During reduced visibility I was on a left downwind leg for runway 24, I understood from the tower that an medium large transport was off my right wing. At that time I did not see the traffic so I continued downwind for a few minutes. I then turned my base turn, thinking I was clear of the traffic and not wanting to lose sight of the runway. At that time I saw the medium large transport and climbed with full power. I feel that this situation could have been avoided by: 1) not flying in reduced visibility conditions. 2) asking for help from the tower to identify my traffic position, and or call my base turn to avoid traffic. 3) identifying myself as a student pilot to the tower before departure.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC BETWEEN SMA AND MLG WHILE BOTH IN TRAFFIC PATTERN FOR LNDG. UNABLE CALLBACK.
Narrative: DURING REDUCED VISIBILITY I WAS ON A LEFT DOWNWIND LEG FOR RWY 24, I UNDERSTOOD FROM THE TWR THAT AN MLG WAS OFF MY RIGHT WING. AT THAT TIME I DID NOT SEE THE TFC SO I CONTINUED DOWNWIND FOR A FEW MINUTES. I THEN TURNED MY BASE TURN, THINKING I WAS CLEAR OF THE TFC AND NOT WANTING TO LOSE SIGHT OF THE RWY. AT THAT TIME I SAW THE MLG AND CLIMBED WITH FULL POWER. I FEEL THAT THIS SITUATION COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED BY: 1) NOT FLYING IN REDUCED VISIBILITY CONDITIONS. 2) ASKING FOR HELP FROM THE TWR TO IDENTIFY MY TFC POSITION, AND OR CALL MY BASE TURN TO AVOID TFC. 3) IDENTIFYING MYSELF AS A STUDENT PLT TO THE TWR BEFORE DEP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.