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Attributes | |
ACN | 1194293 |
Time | |
Date | 201408 |
Local Time Of Day | 0001-0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | LAS.Airport |
State Reference | NV |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Final Approach |
Route In Use | Visual Approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Not Flying |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 210 Flight Crew Total 19000 Flight Crew Type 14000 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Inflight Event / Encounter Other / Unknown |
Narrative:
On arrival to las via the grnpa one STAR we were told to expect the visual approach to runway 19R. We had already selected the RNAV 19R from the FMC database; and briefed the approach from paper charts in the ship sets. As a side note; selecting the RNAV approach was done because the RNAV GPS approaches to 19R and 19L infringe on nellis airspace per previous operations bulletin. Upon transfer to the second approach control frequency; we were cleared to fly from trrop to lemnz; to cross lemnz at or above 3;500 ft and cleared for the visual approach to [runway] 19R. I questioned the controller asking for the RNAV 19R; an approach previous aircraft were being cleared for. He advised we; my air carrier; were not authorized for it. Subsequently we accepted the previously issued clearance and began our approach. Lemnz is 2.6 NM from runway 19R. By crossing it at 3;500 ft; you are 1;400 ft AGL. We immediately recognized this threat and through appropriate energy management were able to complete the approach. This clearance is dangerous; and will set up crews every time for an unstable approach.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: An air carrier crew on approach to LAS Runway 19R was cleared to cross LEMNZ Intersection at or above 3;500 FT but consider 1;400 FT AGL at 2.6 NM from the airport an unstabilized approach setup.
Narrative: On arrival to LAS via the GRNPA ONE STAR we were told to expect the visual approach to Runway 19R. We had already selected the RNAV 19R from the FMC database; and briefed the approach from paper charts in the ship sets. As a side note; selecting the RNAV approach was done because the RNAV GPS approaches to 19R and 19L infringe on Nellis airspace per previous operations bulletin. Upon transfer to the second Approach Control frequency; we were cleared to fly from TRROP to LEMNZ; to cross LEMNZ at or above 3;500 FT and cleared for the visual approach to [Runway] 19R. I questioned the Controller asking for the RNAV 19R; an approach previous aircraft were being cleared for. He advised we; my air carrier; were not authorized for it. Subsequently we accepted the previously issued clearance and began our approach. LEMNZ is 2.6 NM from Runway 19R. By crossing it at 3;500 FT; you are 1;400 FT AGL. We immediately recognized this threat and through appropriate energy management were able to complete the approach. This clearance is dangerous; and will set up crews every time for an unstable approach.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.