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Air carrier on approach to cvg expressed concern regarding ATC's clearance issued to a crash fire rescue equipment truck to hold short of runway 18C on runway 9; claiming no hold lines are depicted on the subject intersection for reference.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 846665 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200907 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | CVG.Airport |
| State Reference | KY |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Pilot Not Flying Captain |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 150 Flight Crew Total 9300 Flight Crew Type 8300 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural Clearance |
Narrative:
Upon approach to 18C in cvg the tower instructed a crash fire rescue equipment truck to hold short of runway 18C on runway 9. There are no hold short lines on runway 9 to hold short of runway 18C. So how does the truck driver know when he infringes or incurs on 18C roll out path without lines? The truck never had to hold short before we landed. Suggestion: do not give these kinds of instructions or put hold short lines on runway 9 to hold short of 18c.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Air Carrier on approach to CVG expressed concern regarding ATC's clearance issued to a CFR truck to hold short of Runway 18C on Runway 9; claiming no hold lines are depicted on the subject intersection for reference.
Narrative: Upon approach to 18C in CVG the Tower instructed a CFR truck to hold short of Runway 18C on Runway 9. There are no hold short lines on Runway 9 to hold short of Runway 18C. So how does the truck driver know when he infringes or incurs on 18C roll out path without lines? The truck never had to hold short before we landed. Suggestion: do not give these kinds of instructions or put hold short lines on Runway 9 to hold short of 18c.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.