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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 124887 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198910 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : per |
| State Reference | OK |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 33000 msl bound upper : 33000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zkc tower : ord |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| ASRS Report | 124887 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 29400 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Air carrier X check on frequency at FL350 landing okc from northeast. Air carrier Y on frequency at FL330 per rzc (sebnd). With aircraft 2 mins apart, air carrier X requested lower altitude. Told he would have to wait or could take turns. He requested turn. Told to turn 10 degrees right and descend to FL240. C/a activated. Track on air carrier Y appeared to jump slightly. Aircraft now within 5 mi. Air carrier X reported air carrier Y in sight. Turned air carrier X 10 degrees right further and air carrier Y 15 degrees right. Lost sep for 1 sweep and then regained it. Wind was 120 KTS from the west. Even though the sep looked good, a slight target jump and the aircraft adjustment from the wind resulted in loss of sep. To prevent recurrence, separate by more than 5 mi and take into account the wind. Also air carrier Y changed radar sites which resulted in slight jumping of target.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SEPARATION WAS LOST BETWEEN ACFT ON CONVERGING COURSES.
Narrative: ACR X CHK ON FREQ AT FL350 LNDG OKC FROM NE. ACR Y ON FREQ AT FL330 PER RZC (SEBND). WITH ACFT 2 MINS APART, ACR X REQUESTED LOWER ALT. TOLD HE WOULD HAVE TO WAIT OR COULD TAKE TURNS. HE REQUESTED TURN. TOLD TO TURN 10 DEGS RIGHT AND DSND TO FL240. C/A ACTIVATED. TRACK ON ACR Y APPEARED TO JUMP SLIGHTLY. ACFT NOW WITHIN 5 MI. ACR X RPTED ACR Y IN SIGHT. TURNED ACR X 10 DEGS RIGHT FURTHER AND ACR Y 15 DEGS RIGHT. LOST SEP FOR 1 SWEEP AND THEN REGAINED IT. WIND WAS 120 KTS FROM THE W. EVEN THOUGH THE SEP LOOKED GOOD, A SLIGHT TARGET JUMP AND THE ACFT ADJUSTMENT FROM THE WIND RESULTED IN LOSS OF SEP. TO PREVENT RECURRENCE, SEPARATE BY MORE THAN 5 MI AND TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE WIND. ALSO ACR Y CHANGED RADAR SITES WHICH RESULTED IN SLIGHT JUMPING OF TARGET.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.