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Attributes | |
ACN | 125382 |
Time | |
Date | 198910 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : hlg |
State Reference | WV |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 11200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zob |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 175 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 16000 |
ASRS Report | 125382 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 7500 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 125377 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Deviation Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Mci-pit. As I recall this incident, the flight was navigating east of ctw VOR (new cornerstown) on radial 102 in descent to FL180. ZOB changed altitude to maintain FL230 which we did. At approximately 27 NM west of hlg VOR (wheeling) flight was cleared direct to hlg to cross 10 NM west of hlg at 10,000'. Flight began maximum rate of descent but missed the crossing restriction by 1200'. Flight was descending through 11, 200', at the 10 DME west of hlg. Controller gave us approximately 17 NM to descend 13,000' which is marginal at best for the aircraft. In the future I suggest more distance be allowed for descent. Supplemental information from acn 125377: ATC told us to cross 10 west of wheeling at 11,000'.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG ALT DEVIATION UNDERSHOT CROSSING RESTRICTION NOT MET.
Narrative: MCI-PIT. AS I RECALL THIS INCIDENT, THE FLT WAS NAVIGATING E OF CTW VOR (NEW CORNERSTOWN) ON RADIAL 102 IN DSCNT TO FL180. ZOB CHANGED ALT TO MAINTAIN FL230 WHICH WE DID. AT APPROX 27 NM W OF HLG VOR (WHEELING) FLT WAS CLRED DIRECT TO HLG TO CROSS 10 NM W OF HLG AT 10,000'. FLT BEGAN MAX RATE OF DSCNT BUT MISSED THE XING RESTRICTION BY 1200'. FLT WAS DESCENDING THROUGH 11, 200', AT THE 10 DME W OF HLG. CTLR GAVE US APPROX 17 NM TO DSND 13,000' WHICH IS MARGINAL AT BEST FOR THE ACFT. IN THE FUTURE I SUGGEST MORE DISTANCE BE ALLOWED FOR DSCNT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION FROM ACN 125377: ATC TOLD US TO CROSS 10 W OF WHEELING AT 11,000'.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.