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Attributes | |
ACN | 1269808 |
Time | |
Date | 201506 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | N90.TRACON |
State Reference | NY |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Medium Transport Low Wing 2 Turboprop Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | Initial Climb |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Medium Transport Low Wing 2 Turbojet Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Final Approach |
Route In Use | Vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Approach Departure |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Experience | Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 1.2 |
Person 2 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Instrument |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 71 Flight Crew Total 9000 Flight Crew Type 1200 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict Airborne Conflict Deviation - Altitude Excursion From Assigned Altitude Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Track / Heading All Types |
Narrative:
[Aircraft Y] was under my control landing lga at 4;000 feet MSL on a vector across the localizer for runway 22 for spacing on final. Hpn was departing runway 16 on the SID climbing to 3;000 feet MSL. [Aircraft X] departed hpn in the climb and did not turn per the SID but instead remained runway heading. I did notice the blown SID off of hpn and began to issue [aircraft Y] a traffic call to point out [aircraft X] climbing to 3;000 feet. Mid-transmission; I stopped my traffic call since I realized [aircraft X] was now at 3;500 feet on the next radar sweep. As I began to issue the traffic alert to [aircraft Y]; he keyed up right before I did and responded to the RA he received on aircraft X still in the climb (now at 3;800 feet) and began his evasive maneuver to turn/climb away from the aircraft in conflict. Targets were approximately 1.2 NM and 300 feet separated at the closest instance. No recommendations can be given since the pilot that departed hpn deviated from the hpn runway 16 SID's turn/altitude published. The climb through 3;000 feet from the J328 was a fast climb rate. Thus; the RA that [aircraft Y] responded to was obviously the right move steering the aircraft away from [aircraft Y].
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: N90 TRACON Controller and both pilots report of a RA and a loss of separation due to the aircraft climbing above its assigned altitude. Pilots report of a problem with the aircraft that took their attention away from the altitude deviation.
Narrative: [Aircraft Y] was under my control landing LGA at 4;000 feet MSL on a vector across the localizer for runway 22 for spacing on final. HPN was departing runway 16 on the SID climbing to 3;000 feet MSL. [Aircraft X] departed HPN in the climb and did not turn per the SID but instead remained runway heading. I did notice the blown SID off of HPN and began to issue [Aircraft Y] a traffic call to point out [Aircraft X] climbing to 3;000 feet. Mid-transmission; I stopped my traffic call since I realized [Aircraft X] was now at 3;500 feet on the next radar sweep. As I began to issue the traffic alert to [Aircraft Y]; he keyed up right before I did and responded to the RA he received on Aircraft X still in the climb (now at 3;800 feet) and began his evasive maneuver to turn/climb away from the aircraft in conflict. Targets were approximately 1.2 NM and 300 feet separated at the closest instance. No recommendations can be given since the pilot that departed HPN deviated from the HPN runway 16 SID's turn/altitude published. The climb through 3;000 feet from the J328 was a fast climb rate. Thus; the RA that [Aircraft Y] responded to was obviously the right move steering the aircraft away from [Aircraft Y].
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.