Aircraft departure without a clearance from tower.

Attributes
ACN	128184
Time
Date	198911
Day	Sat
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : mdt
State Reference	PA
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : hou
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng
Flight Phase	climbout : takeoff
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain instruction : trainee
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time total : 9300 flight time type : 2000
ASRS Report	128184
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer observation : company check pilot
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : cfi
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 7300 flight time type : 280
ASRS Report	127273
Events
Anomaly	incursion : runway other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Ambiguous
Air Traffic Incident	other other

Narrative:

We were completing a 6-MONTH instruction check. Had just landed on runway 31. I needed to do a 0 degree flap landing with the trnee on roll-out. I asked tower if we could go to the end of runway, turn around and take off with left closed traffic for a full stop on runway 13. Tower repeated what I said and said to continue to end of runway, do a 180 degree turn and 'cleared for takeoff.' after takeoff, while on downwind, tower told us to get a takeoff clearance next time we departed. After landing, called tower and asked to pull the tape. He said he didn't need to because he was right, but would forget about it. I am an aircraft examiner and the pilot taking the check ride was a former FAA inspector and ATC tower controller.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACFT DEP WITHOUT A CLRNC FROM TWR.

Narrative: WE WERE COMPLETING A 6-MONTH INSTRUCTION CHECK. HAD JUST LANDED ON RWY 31. I NEEDED TO DO A 0 DEG FLAP LNDG WITH THE TRNEE ON ROLL-OUT. I ASKED TWR IF WE COULD GO TO THE END OF RWY, TURN AROUND AND TAKE OFF WITH LEFT CLOSED TFC FOR A FULL STOP ON RWY 13. TWR REPEATED WHAT I SAID AND SAID TO CONTINUE TO END OF RWY, DO A 180 DEG TURN AND 'CLRED FOR TKOF.' AFTER TKOF, WHILE ON DOWNWIND, TWR TOLD US TO GET A TKOF CLRNC NEXT TIME WE DEPARTED. AFTER LNDG, CALLED TWR AND ASKED TO PULL THE TAPE. HE SAID HE DIDN'T NEED TO BECAUSE HE WAS RIGHT, BUT WOULD FORGET ABOUT IT. I AM AN ACFT EXAMINER AND THE PLT TAKING THE CHK RIDE WAS A FORMER FAA INSPECTOR AND ATC TWR CTLR.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.