Air carrier medium large transport altitude deviation crossing restriction not met.

Attributes
ACN	129524
Time
Date	198911
Day	Sun
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : pmd airport : bur
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 8000 msl bound upper : 8800
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zla
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	descent other
Route In Use	arrival star : star
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 8000
ASRS Report	129524
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure
Independent Detector	other controllera other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted none taken : unable
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

I was on flight phx-bur. The captain was flying the aircraft. At 31000' ZLA cleared us hec direct pmd, lynxx 5 arrival bur. On our descent out of 24000' we were cleared to cross pmd at 13000' or below and cross janny at 8000'. I told the captain he wasn't going to make janny at 8000' 3 times. At janny intersection, ZLA said 'what is your altitude?' the captain picked up the microphone and said, 'level at 8000.' ZLA then said, 'I show you passing janny intersection at 8800'.' I said to the captain, 'that's another NASA report!' (note: we crossed janny intersection at 8800' and at 265 KTS). ZLA then said, 'contact bur approach.'

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR MLG ALT DEVIATION CROSSING RESTRICTION NOT MET.

Narrative: I WAS ON FLT PHX-BUR. THE CAPT WAS FLYING THE ACFT. AT 31000' ZLA CLRED US HEC DIRECT PMD, LYNXX 5 ARR BUR. ON OUR DSCNT OUT OF 24000' WE WERE CLRED TO CROSS PMD AT 13000' OR BELOW AND CROSS JANNY AT 8000'. I TOLD THE CAPT HE WASN'T GOING TO MAKE JANNY AT 8000' 3 TIMES. AT JANNY INTXN, ZLA SAID 'WHAT IS YOUR ALT?' THE CAPT PICKED UP THE MIC AND SAID, 'LEVEL AT 8000.' ZLA THEN SAID, 'I SHOW YOU PASSING JANNY INTXN AT 8800'.' I SAID TO THE CAPT, 'THAT'S ANOTHER NASA RPT!' (NOTE: WE CROSSED JANNY INTXN AT 8800' AND AT 265 KTS). ZLA THEN SAID, 'CONTACT BUR APCH.'

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.