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Attributes | |
ACN | 1311019 |
Time | |
Date | 201511 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZLA.ARTCC |
State Reference | CA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Light Transport Low Wing 2 Turbojet Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Climb |
Route In Use | Other IFR Departure |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Cruise |
Route In Use | None |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Enroute |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Experience | Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 13.0 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict Airborne Conflict |
Narrative:
Aircraft X was climbing off of ifp on the IFR departure to 8000 feet. While in the turn and climbing on the departure; aircraft X turned and climbed into a VFR overflying westbound over ifp. I was not talking to the VFR aircraft and not yet in contact with aircraft X when aircraft X turned and climbed into the VFR aircraft. I tried giving a full route clearance away from the target; unfortunately aircraft X did not get it in time. When I checked to see if they were in fact on frequency; they advised me that they responded to a RA. I took down information and continued to give them the correct clearance. Not sure if this could have been avoided at all since I was not in communication with the other aircraft and I don't think ifp tower could have given them traffic in time.I'm not sure how to avoid this situation since I was not in contact with the VFR target. No way to know 100% what altitude to issue when not verified.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ARTCC Controller reported an aircraft departing a controlled airport on an IFR clearance responded to an RA for a VFR aircraft. The IFR aircraft had not yet contacted the Controller and the VFR aircraft was not in communication with ARTCC.
Narrative: Aircraft X was climbing off of IFP on the IFR departure to 8000 feet. While in the turn and climbing on the departure; Aircraft X turned and climbed into a VFR overflying westbound over IFP. I was not talking to the VFR aircraft and not yet in contact with Aircraft X when Aircraft X turned and climbed into the VFR aircraft. I tried giving a full route clearance away from the target; unfortunately Aircraft X did not get it in time. When I checked to see if they were in fact on frequency; they advised me that they responded to a RA. I took down information and continued to give them the correct clearance. Not sure if this could have been avoided at all since I was not in communication with the other aircraft and I don't think IFP tower could have given them traffic in time.I'm not sure how to avoid this situation since I was not in contact with the VFR target. No way to know 100% what altitude to issue when not verified.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.